Virtue Signaling Is Becoming Tiring At The World Cup and It Is Only Day 2.

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We all know the background to the Qatar world cup bid by now. Many FIFA executives were allegedly bribed for their vote which led to arrest of 8 FIFA executives back in 2015. The U.S.A bid for the 2022 and did not succeed even though it was commonly thought that America had the best bid by a country mile. So much so that even Great Britain had succumbed to the fact that the USA may get it. So the end of the day is the Qatar got it. Since then there has been outrage over Qatar and human rights and how many migrant workers died building the new stadiums.

I get that the world view of Qatar is not great. They look down on their women as second class citizens. This is their culture and no matter how much we try, it will not change anytime soon. It was not so long ago where countries in Europe looked on the women as second class citizens as well. Definitely in Ireland anyway. It is only since the 70s and 80s that this has changed. I totally agree it should change by the way but they are some way off.

The death of migrant workers is another issue. I have never before heard of such a kerfuffle around migrant workers. I wonder how many of them died building America and how many died when they rebuilt Germany after the war. Accidents happen on building sites and the death toll is not that many considering they build all shiny new stadiums.

I sat down yesterday to watch the opening ceremony. I was really looking forward to what Qatar would pull off actually and I quite like some Arabic music. I looked for it on the UK channels and nothing. They did not show the ceremony. I checked around the Irish channels and they had it but they were talking over it around civil rights. I came here for the football and the festival that is starting. Not some guy getting paid by the way to commentate tell me that we should all be ashamed of ourselves. This is coming from a guy who is being paid to commentate in Qatar. The guy was in Qatar. Well Mr Commentator, do not go there if you are going to be preaching.

Also what did not sit well with me was that everyone is going on about human rights and we look back at the countries that held the World Cup previously. Did America not hold it back in 1994 after they blitzed Iraq from 1990 to 1991 and killed innocent children just because they did not like the man in power. But yet there was nothing said about it.
Russia holding the last world cup. Again not much said about it. Yet Qatar is getting all the grief. Bringing geopolitics into a Sporting event should not happen. FIFA president Gianni Infantino made a speech yesterday and said that Europe should be apologizing for their terrible human rights issues over the years as well and there was outrage from the Western media. I quite liked his speech. I thought he had a point. The West shouldn't be throwing stones in glasshouses. Weren't the Nazi's European?

The English press are moaning because Kane et al are not allowed to where the pro LGBT community band around their arm. There is also a ban on alcohol at the stadiums and they are slagging off David Beckham and Gary Neville for taking Qatar's silver. If they offered it to me I would take it as well.

Hugo Loris came out and said he has to respect the country they are in as they have to respect French laws when they are in his country. Again Hugo has a point and was lambasted over it.

And all I wanted to do is enjoy a bit of football and the opening ceremony. It looks to be a great world cup by the way with all the shit aside. And the venues are absolutely incredible. The migrant workers who chose to go there should be proud. I hope this is the best world cup ever. I really do as Qatar might benefit, the West may become more open to hold another event in the Middle East and everyone can benefit. I know I will be solely enjoying the football.



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"rebuilt Germany after the war."
No migrants were part of rebuilding Germany. The first waves of migration came only after the 1950ies when the rebuilding was done.
But I agree, I am sick too of all that morale bullshit. Just that they can distract from their own crimes, like forcing poisonous treatments to people.

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Germany was still in a state in the 50s. Cities like Hannover and Dresden that were completely flattened took ages to rebuild. Some of my Turkish friends fathers might completely disagree with you on that one. And I agree. No country is innocent in this world.

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Of course it depends on how you eactly define "rebuild" and what entails a "wave". Anyway.

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If you agree to go there then you have to agree to follow the laws. If it was such a big thing then the teams should have boycotted the tournament. You can't make a statement when you are there as you are accepting everything by being there. If enough teams were going to boycott the event FIFA would have back tracked and reverted to plan B but we know that would never happen as money rules the game and FIFA have the carrot.

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Exactly right my friend. Even today Wales and England chickened out of wearing the One Love armband in case they got a yellow card. Harry Kane, hardly the most dirtiest of players should have taken the hit. The FA will regret that. But it shouldn't be the players that need to take the stand. It should be the FA's

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The behavior indeed is shitty.
Why point out someone's flaws when you have the same flaws 😅

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And they are lucky enough to be there. I will swap places no problem and even wear their garbs. untitled.gif

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Arab money😂😂💰

A name that's way better than that Vince nonsense 😂

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What a lot of rot! Who has any human rights left these days when you can be locked down at the drop of a hat and forbidden to see your granny? Down with that sort of thing I say! No knee-taking, no bliddy rainbow armbands. Sure aren't they being paid to play football, not to make political statements?

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That's right @deirdyweirdy . Just get on with it and enjoy the heat in November and a couple of wails from the mosque at 6am in the morning. Wouldn't it be the good life. And here's us too stuck in a load of shite in Tipperary.

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Damn right we should be virtue signalling! How dare you disagree, you homophobic faggot!

I do think the banning of players wearing the rainbow armband is a bit pathetic, but the rest of the tripe and hypocritical BS been spouted is pathetic.

Not sure if you saw this article but Robbie Williams hit the nail on the head in an interview this week.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11446581/Robbie-Williams-DEFENDS-Qatar-gig-World-Cup-Dua-Lipa-Rod-Stewart-Shakira-WONT-perform.html

Anyway. All this 'controversy' had sadly put me off the whole thing until I sat down and watched my first game last night and despite everything, happily the excitement came flooding back!

Enjoy the Tournament but...

I quite like some Arabic music

Seriously? ..... we need a talk young man!

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I think the armband is a FIFA issue. If they open the floodgates on the armband then every team will want to wear them for every political event so I get where they are coming from here. Personally I don't like this taking the knee wither because where does it stop. If teams stop taking the knee are they racist? It's all ridiculous.

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I think the resentment is deeply rooted in the fact that Qatar "bought" the rights to the World Cup, cheating out other countries like my native Australia. I think human rights is the easier play to paint a picture of Qatar, but it all comes back to the money IMO. It's no doubt a massive distraction and makes its very difficult to enjoy the football.

Having said that, how bonkers was the English?!?! The bench itself can walk into any other national team starting XI.

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Its crazy how much talent is on the bench. Foden not starting and in fairness you could not fault the managers decisions. Bellingham looks like a superstar.

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Same here. I am getting a bit tired of reading all this nonsense on social media. Thankfully, our national broadcaster has rights to World Cup content with local commentary.

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Hopefully the national TV stations said what they have to sat and its done now.

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I totally agree with Lloris here. If somebody comes to your home and you invite him to play games you expect him to behave accordingly and respect your rules even though they might not be exactly your values.

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Putting aside political controversies, human rights violations, labor slavery, & hosting bribery I think Qatar managed to pull this world cup smoothly. From the stadiums, security, and reported incidents, they're all well-managed.

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Yes apart from all those. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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Putting aside political controversies, human rights violations, labor slavery, & hosting bribery I think Europe and the US are not doing thast bad.

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I was actually living in Qatar between 2012 and 2017, watching it on TV now, I could tell you they built an entire country basically since I left. The workers' situation is hard to defend as they are treated poorly, however, western media tried to make it worse than it is and their lies cheapened it.

It is also, funnily enough, not the west's biggest problem it seems. And they also don't fucking listen as the whole homosexuality situation was explained over and over. There's no actual law against it, there's a law against public display of affection as a whole and I lived there long enough to see the punishments for it distributed equally.

I have so much to say more, but I will just stop. All I will say is that I fucking hate the western media for doing all of this shit as it really took the fun out of the World Cup and I almost decided to stop writing altogether because I am fucking sick of them.

Here's to hoping the rest goes smoothly.

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From a person from the middle east I think your opinion carries more weight in my opinion. Interesting about no law against homosexuality. Didn't know that.

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It was just misrepresented like everything else. Just like people counted Qatar's metro project as part of the World Cup budget among other things. I might get into it later, but let's see how these games go first.

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