0%? Am I Missing Something Here?
Since the last hardfork (HF25), also called Equilibrium, I've been keeping an eye on curation to see how it works. For those of you who are new to the platform, the last HF has modified the curation distribution, among other things.
We're on linear curation, which simplified means the curation reward is split equally between the curator and author, in the first 24 hours. After the first 24 hours things change, but more about that later as that's not my main point here.
The above description is very simplified, without using the proper technical terms, but here's a quote from @ blocktrades.
The most important aspect of this change is that the 5 minute reverse auction is going away, so there is no punishment for voting early. This will finally put manual voters on an equal footing with automated voters when it comes to competing for curation rewards. This change, more than any other, was the driving reason for the naming of this hardfork.
In addition, anyone voting in the first 24 hours will be rewarded based solely on their Hive Power and vote weight, and the reward curve applied from 24 hours to the end of the voting window will be much softer than currently, eliminating any need to feel rushed when voting in order to maximize curation rewards. source
The 50/50 curation reward split is a rough estimation as in reality you get 99%, 100% or 101% if you vote in the first 24 hours, which is ok as we're not at the pharmacy to work with high precision.
0 Curation Rewards
Occasionally there are exceptions where the difference between the promised 100% vote efficiency and the real one is huge.
100% vote efficiency in this case means you get 100% of your curation cut, 100% of the 50% curation that goes to curators.
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Here's an example in which I gave a 10% vote after 10 hours and my vote efficiency is 0 (ZERO), therefore my curation reward is also 0 (ZERO)!
Here's another one. In this case the vote went out after 3 minutes, in which case should not be a penalty as HF25 has eliminated that.
Having a closer look, the user set 30% of the rewards to go to two beneficiaries, 15% each. This may change things, but as far as I know, setting beneficiaries can only influence the author rewards.
None of the posts have been downvoted, I voted within the 24h window and yet, the vote efficiency is not what is should be.
Fortunately there is only this cases this week and just to be clear, I'm not complaining about missing out on curation rewards. I just what to understand what's going on here, why in these cases the curation reward is either missing or it's way less than it should be.
Curating After The First 24 Hours
Curating the next day can have benefits and penalties, depending on which side you are. As a curator, your curation rewards are halved (roughly). Those who curated in the first 24 hours on the other hand can get more than 100% if a bigger vote comes in the next day.
However, cases like the above mentioned one are not many, so don't count on making a fortune on it :)
What's The Reason?
I don't like to tag people, so I'm just going to post my question and hope someone from the dev team can solve this mystery for me.
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I upvoted you, thank you for posting! 👍
I have no experience working on the Hive blockchain, but I think your question is interesting and daring. I want to say a big thank you right away. It will be very interesting from an educational point of view to read the answer to this question. Have a good day. 🙏
I hope we get an answer and if it's a bug, it gets fixed.
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For some reason I am sure that the question will remain unanswered. Or there will be an answer that will not satisfy you. This is my opinion. Thank you for responding to my comment.
Have you checked if you have upvoted twice instead of once?
If you upvote twice, the rewards you get is zero.
It happened to me, I set my autovote in a few authors and sometimes I manually upvote them and so I’m losing the reward.
This is known issue
I don't upvote twice as the upvote is visible after the first one and I know I haven't done it in the past 7 days by mistake.
Anyway, most of the frontends have a warning, when you want to upvote the same content twice. I guess it says something like the previous vote is the same value (I think) and that you may lose curation if you do. Something like that.
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Hmm.. I haven seen that before oO Kinda weird.
Will reblog, to see if others know
Thank you, very kind of you. It would be nice to see why it happens, not for the rewards as in these cases that would be around 0.25 HIVE or so, but it's interesting.
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Can't it be a glitch with the Leo API? Maybe it can't pull from some witness, if thats who the people is as a node?
I might be walking a tight rope here haha
No, it's clear now, it's because the double voting. In the first case must have been by mistake and I can't remember it. The second was automated.
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Ahh, good to know!
Do you still lose the curation rewards or is it just a displsy issue?
It wasn't a display issue, it was my fault but did not know how. Looks like I have double voted the post and the voting bot did the same
with the other. Fixed the issue and try to be more careful next time.
Looks like after HF25 canceling your vote and voting again means you lose curation. Now I remember there were some talks regarding the matter and the reason was to prevent gaming curation.
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Ohh interesting. I didn't know this either! Thanks :D
in this case you upvoted 2 times, so the 2nd vote brings you weight to 0 so you don't get any curation
https://hiveblocks.com/@erikah?page=15
Wow, I don't know how I missed that. Thank you! Need to pay more attention :)
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I found the problem on my end and fixed it, the other I can't seem to find it on hiveblocks, so I keep searching. Thank you again!
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Where can I find this information for my votes> I'd be interested to see what the efficiency is on mine. Thanks. 😍
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Interesting information and the comments on this post provided some new knowledge to me.
I didn't know that if you upvoted twice you get 0 rewards, for example.
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Looks like it had been a change brought with HF25 as before that, you could change your vote % by unvoting and voting again. At least I've learned something and so did those who are reading my post.
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