RE: Usecases for POB is a must but first step - Ad revenue .
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As far as a-ads goes: let's say I've been posting but I still don't get a share of the proceeds. I would have contributed, so why the f- wouldn't I get anything? Not to mention there is ZERO reason to award anyone for burning POB. There is no reason to do that. POB's value comes exclusively from high quality content.
When you burn POB, your message is "I DON'T BELIEVE IN POB AND I THINK YOU'RE ALL FUCKTARDS WHO WILL NEVER BRING QUALITY THAT CAN RISE POB'S PRICE, SO I WILL BURN IT AS A WAY AROUND YOUR STUPIDITY."
Also, what you've said is not even a use case for POB. It is impossible for non-large stakeholders to grab most of the spots you've mentioned. More importantly, no one would be able to swap POB for anything you've said. However, if the entire proceeds from a-ads were used to buy POB only to burn them, I might be okay with that, at least on first thoughts.
Last but not least, if mark takes over, I will immediately sell my stake and leave, or start heavily abusing every system I can, because it would just going to be another hive story anyway. I condemn you for even attempting to summon him.
Suggestions of running ads to me won't hurt, I mean my brave browser will block them anyway, but then rewarding the community with the revenue? Now that's not so smart ( I'd say dumb actually)
The proofofbrain token is meant for?
It's already meant for rewarding the community in the first place. So we shouldn't need another reward token! It kinda ruins the entire system!
There should be reduction in burning tokens! A token burnt is like an upvote given to oneself, instead of a certain user somewhere getting it, it goes to null, that's actually sad, and in the process curators earn, not do fair!
won't be upvoting burn posts again!
You didn't get my point .
I was talking about giving a usecase to POB and not to proofofbrain front-end .
You obviously reward the people with POB but what am I gonna use the POB on ? That's what I am focusing on .
Please feel free to provide your smart ideas . I really would appreciate it .
Never said I had ideas, just saying that this is more of copying what is already in the system!
How is it copying ?
If you say like that , POB is rewarding people for blogging , isn't that copying other tribes ?
No why ? because POB has different tokenomics and plans , that's what I am trying to tell .
We can't term Using ads as copying , how are we going to use the ad-revenue ? That is important . Although you don't like what I shared , I don't see any other tribe doing that . Who is buying amazon cards in exchange of POB ?
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How do you intend to buy Amazon cards in exchange for POB?
Please don't see this as an attack, it's quite the opposite!
Fine you feel we should run ads, cool, while we earn BTC from running ads, what will the "said" developers bring in that we'd have to pay them in BTC?
Although selling POB is not so scary! Even if $1,000 was dumped, the market will definitely rebound...
That's what , using the ad-revenue . See what I am saying is , let us get the ad-revenue then we can buy amazon cards or similar stuff using that ad-revenue ( because we can buy that using swap.BTC ) . Then we shall sell it to users for POB . So if I am holding say 10 POB and if someone says there is a gift card I can buy , I will definitely be interested .
Whatever development we have to make for POB . Right now leprecaun is building the new front-end ( Ecency like ) in exchange for POB because he believes in POB .
Now say next month you get another idea for development and find a developer but he doesn't accept POB at all then we have to pay him in some other crypto right ? How will the owner raise that crypto ? Through ads is one way is my point .
Hey no no not at all , although " it is dumb " remark kinda hurt me lol I totally get your point and would love to discuss this more .
For you and me , it might not matter but I don't think that's the same with huge investors right ? Most of the time traders won't have patience to say oh okay let the market rebound , we shall wait . We cannot neglect any actor in this ecosystem right ?
I hope you are getting what I am trying to tell , I am enjoying this discussion :p
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Yea, definitely getting all you're saying!
My apologies on the inappropriate language tho.
I believe in POB so I wouldn't want to stop any process that will better the community.
Hopefully, if a greater number of people loves this idea then we can give it a try, I honestly want to see POB stand out, that's all...
Hey it's all good :) No worries .
I understand it , believe me . I mean we have to collectively improve the platform , it can't be done by one person .
That's the reason I am tilting more on buying something else ( like cards or say NFT ) instead of pure burning .
Just a discussion , I have clearly mentioned that it is just an example . This is to spark the discussion on usecase . Feel free to suggest usecases which you think are best for POB .
1 reason = People will start "promoting" their own posts more using POB burning mechanism .
See that's what I would like to know , what people thought . Good that you would be okay with this . Now we can see if others are okay with that too .
Also I will quote what I said in the post
I am here to just listen to the users and their ideas while sharing my ideas . No need to accept mine :)
I am listening. I also suggested using that ad-revenue to buy pob at a certain threshold. I'll add that I meant not to simply buy pob from the highest sell order, but act as a tanking buying order at, say, 0.2 hive (mostly random value). This is something I've only suggested because you've sparked this discussion.
Yeah that can be done. But all this is a moo point ( friends reference ) if we don't have ads in the first place.
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I think ads on the front end would work well, specially if it gets a nice rework like leo's.
Definitely , that's what I feel too .
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As soon as any of the dinosaurs of HIVE start having highly influential opportunities to taint the atmosphere here, I'm out. This place has went from strength to strength because it's not trying to repeat the same patterns as before.
So many people are completely missing the point and can't see how DPOS is incredibly flawed. If POB repeats the same behaviors as other tribes, it's just going to be a token with BTC's tokenomics and the same archaic influencers encouraging boring posts with little social value (a dogshit example of Proof Of Brain pretty much).
If this happens, I'll be joining the platform that clones POB and starts fresh. I've said from day 1 that there is nothing stopping someone else from replicating this model. This is the main "threat" to the price everyone is so obsessed with, not the large stakeholders dumping* (because for the most part they are well-balanced and see the long term potential)
I'll go out on a limb and say that some of the larger stakeholders will stop giving a fuck if there is evidence of the platform spinning down the toilet. And best believe that's when the price will hit 0.1.
With regards to burning... read this. Look at the community response.
Thanks for sharing this.
It's good to see users opinion on this.
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I'm on the same boat, @calumam.
I'm just a little fish here, but everyone has to have a position on everything (especially about that).
I completely agree. We want something different, not the same old.
the ads in between the comments, no comment
think the honeymoon phase just ended a few days ago ;)
popcorn
I said this in my post , I hope you didn't skip reading that part -
We can use the BTC to buy Amazon cards or some other stuff that the community votes on and sell those in-exchange for POB . The POB exchanged will be burnt .
I always hear people ( myself included) talking about burning the tokens using ad-revenue instead of that we can sell stuff with the same ad-revenue , provide a usecase for POB and also burn the token at the same time .
The only reason I disagree with this is because, in the long-term, POB prices would probably settle around buying those things instead of making/reading high-quality content. I think that could be great on some of the other tribes, though!
Makes total sense but only if you make high quality then only you can buy those using POB right because only then you can earn POB.
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No, you can earn POB by being an author of high quality content or by commenting on posts whose authors award engagement. That's the most important way to earn POB.
Ah yeah , sorry I guess I didn't frame the sentence right but I was trying to tell the same. :)
Greetings friend, I think your opinion is very valid. The POB system is based on its originality, the use of the brain and the quality of the content. I think that POB is different and unique before all the hive communities.