What Hive Already Has After Two Years and What Hive Still Needs?

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It seems incredible, but yes, two days from now, on March 20th, Hive will be 2 years old. That is if we count from the split time, otherwise it will be around 6 years old.

I thought this is the perfect moment to look at Hive from two perspectives. What are already its strengths, and where things could be improved going forward, in my opinion.

Let's start with the strengths.

1. Fast and Free Transactions

While there are blockchains faster than Hive, I believe a 3 second period for producing new blocks is very fast. Faster than that, and it would create issues synchronizing nodes while preserving things decentralized and with servers all over the world.

There are of course options which make these operations even faster. Hive Application Framework (HAF) improves the speed of older data retrieval from the blockchain by keeping it in a regular database, and it is an easier programming interface for any developer with SQL knowledge. And it's not all HAF does, but I simplified things.

Free transactions. This is technically not true, because transactions cost resource credits. And to have resource credits (RC) you need HIVE Power staked. That is until the next hard fork which will come very soon, and which will allow RCs to be delegated in a similar manner as HIVE Power. That is a very important evolution, because there are many accounts with not enough RCs and enough accounts which have plenty of them and which never use more than a fraction of them.

The difference between RCs and 'classical' transaction fees, is that RCs regenerate over time. While if you pay transaction fees that have a monetary value, once you pay them they are gone. On Hive, your resource credits simply replenish because you hold HIVE Power. The more HP you hold (or you have delegated to you), the more RCs you have.

2. Scalability

A serious amount of time has been spent by the core blockchain development team on improving scalability of Hive and fixing potential bottlenecks.

Last year, Splinterlands' major adoption wave happened, which revealed another bottleneck. That was fixed as well. While the gameplay of Splinterlands is not on Hive (for the most part - quest custom jsons are), the marketplace is, and that includes the primary and secondary marketplaces and rental marketplaces too. And those are quite busy too.

We have been for enough time in the top 5 blockchains by activity in the crypto sphere. Currently on the 4th position neck to neck with Tron. I'm sure we could take 3rd spot, but why push it now? We will take it anyway eventually and stay there.

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I was curious since I was on blocktivity to see how the previous blockchain is doing. Well, it's nowhere to be found. I even found BLURT on the second page...

@blocktrades talked about the scalability of Hive on a number of occasions. I don't think I can find them right now, but I'm sure I remember him saying Hive could easily scale at least 10x in activity without running into serious growing pains.

3. Community

While I've started with the tech side, it's community which makes Hive what it is. Much of the tech (at least #1) was there on the previous blockchain, but as soon as the community migrated to Hive, that went into oblivion.

As people started to say, while Hive-Engine or DLUX are layer 2, Hive core blockchain is layer 1, and the community is layer 0. And those proved to be true on a number of occasions. The best of which was the battle fought, but inevitably lost because of the involvement of exchanges on the previous blockchain.

I said community, as Hive community, and that makes sense. But otherwise another strong point is that Hive supports the diversity of communities and the easiness for anyone to create a new community at a very low cost.

On top of that, at layer 2, Hive-Engine supports tokenized communities they call tribes.

4. Centralized Control Resistance, Censorship Resistance

Hive was given birth as a resistance to the abusive takeover of the previous chain, facilitated by the use of major stakes in ways they shouldn't have been used.

Hive is now resistant to such attacks because of multiple reasons:

  • there is no entity holding a significant stake of HIVE Power
  • measures were taken to prevent newly powered up HIVE from influencing governance (for 30 days), enough time for the community to react
  • there is no single entity behind Hive core development and there is Hive Development Fund (DHF), a decentralized fund which can be used to hire developers if needed
  • network is being secured by 20 top witnesses and about 80 backup witnesses all over the world
  • witnesses can be voted in or out of their positions at any time and if stakeholders don't make any governance updates for a year, their votes are reset to prevent long-time inactive users to keep voting
  • there is a relatively low cost of running a Hive node, which makes it very unlikely to run into the situation of the blockchain halting because there is no one to produce blocks

Regarding censorship resistance, it exists at the blockchain level. At the front ends level, each front end has its own policies and it may be forced at some points to take down content from their interfaces. The content will still exist on the blockchain and it will remain accessible, but not as easily for not technical individuals. Of course other interfaces can pop up to show only content that is being taken down from the main front ends, for example. As long as these interfaces are not easy to take down, it's a way to facilitate access to such content.

5. Development Keeps Happening. People Keep Joining.

The two main factors to continue to have a thriving ecosystem is to have continued development and to have new people joining on a regular basis.

We know the number of active people on Hive tends to fluctuate with the price of HIVE. Which is contrary to what should happen, but the more this is explained, the less it seems to get into people's heads.

Over time, on any platform, some people stop using it forever or for a very long time. That's why it is critical to keep bringing in new people just to keep the same number of active accounts.

To grow these numbers, something like Splinterlands and Leofinance needs to happen. Or big names coming to Hive with their communities and / or their followers.

The problem with that seems to always be the amount of existing account claims to onboard an entire community. And right now few understand Hive accounts are worth much more than the cost one pays to get it (not free). Maybe this mentality will change the more issues people face or hear about on the traditional social media sites.

There's a lot of development on Hive that we should be excited of.

There is Splinterlands and Leofinance with what they are doing. There is 3Speak with SPK Network and Ragnarok (well, this is more Dan's child than 3Speak's), there are quite a few other new games being developed on Hive currently and I already lost their track - one can only choose something of interest and keep following, but following everything is difficult.

There is DLUX by @disregardfiat and applications that will little by little be launched on it. There's HAF I already mentioned at #1 and its application HAFAH, and the one with a similar acronym HAS by @arcange, but which is more like a Hive Keychain for mobile (not only that).

Of course, Hive-Engine (and its more advanced interface TribalDex) keep getting improved. One thing that was a major step forward lately was the introduction of diesel pools (on TribalDex, not on Hive-Engine), which represents the TribalDex version of the two-asset liquidity pools from the defi world.

And of course we have the Decentralized Hive Fund which can be used to fund development, and sometimes other ventures.

I'm sure I forgot many others. But these alone can give a picture of a vibrant ecosystem.

What Does Hive Still Need?

HIVE and HBD related

If you watch the @hiveio account, you know HIVE and HBD recently got a new use case by being included as purchase options on a retail website.

More use cases for HIVE and HBD is of course something we need. If they are external to Hive, even better, because that works as publicity too.

Also, both HIVE and HBD, but especially the latter, need more listings. That happened too for HIVE, but something like Coinbase would probably do wonders.

Centralized exchanges aside, both HIVE and HBD need some liquidity pools in the AMM world, with decent liquidity, outside the Hive ecosystem (and a bridge back). Leofinance will eventually help with that, because there is a plan to link LeoBridge to Hive-Engine/Hive.

Change of Discourse

This is something I already see happening a lot. Instead of seeming like Hive maximalists shilling, it's better to focus on promoting various apps on Hive. The underlying layer is important, but not to the average user who we generally target. Luckily now people promote Splinterlands, Leofinance, PolyCub, 3Speak, PeakD, Listnerds. I rarely see them say "Come join Hive!".

I'm not sure how many players on Splinterlands do even know they have a Hive account. Or how many on LeoFinance who joined using a web2 social media account.

Yes, that process can probably be improved, so that once they joined and they became active, to be an incentive for them to claim their Hive account sooner rather than later. And this way they learn they have a Hive account and what is that good for.

More Humble

We know we have a great ecosystem and that sometimes we have solved issues others struggle to solve and probably never will.

I don't particularly like when we keep bragging about it and looking with an air of superiority to others (usually much bigger) who still have issues and nominate them directly.

Not because we aren't correct in many cases, but because that does us a disservice. They certainly won't appreciate it, and even if they don't reply directly, if they have a say at some point about Hive's future, partnerships etc. they might say no, and their influence will count more than ours.

Sometimes it pays off to be a diplomat. Maybe we would have been in a more favorable position now on the partnerships/interoperability and listings front, if this would have been on our minds (including mine).


Since Hive's anniversary is on Sunday and I publish my weekly progress reports then, this is my post dedicated to the occasion. I wish I'll be just as happy, or even more to write an anniversary post when Hive will be 10 years old. Happy Anniversary Hive!

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At a minimum, we need both Hive and HBD in more liquidity pools. If CEX is going to keep going the path of government control, we need to simply have pools that people can use.

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I agree. Liquidity pools are a must in web3.

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This is very good information. I only recently learn that hive was as a result of a hard fork. There is problem with rc. I have power up many times due to not enough rc. Almost all of my hp is from me buying it. I not earn much of it. That's a good thing as I'm sure I would have spent my hive token. Now like a savings account !

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Yes you have about the right HP necessary to use Hive without overdoing it. If you use it a lot, you might need a little more added. But you have a good basis to work from.

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I would like to see HIVE on more main-stream exchanges like coinbase and uphold. I see so many "iffy" coins there, yet steem/hive which has proven itself for years, is left out?

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Yeah, this may turn to be about the choices we have made, preferring to build within the ecosystem and without building strong connections outside, with the notable exceptions of Splinterlands and Leofinance.

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Great post. That is the kind of information lots of people need, including me, so they better understand the Hive. Thanks for sharing.

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Thanks! Yes, it may be a little technical here and there, it has a bit of history too, but it is a good starting point.

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Hive's gonna thrive, and I think more LP for HBD and Hive would help a lot to keep Hive and HBD more valuable, and I love the new use cases of the tokens!
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Yes, we would definitely need deep LPs in other ecosystems.

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Nice overview!

Personally, I'm going to be a Hive maximalist on Twitter. It's tiring to see various groups design or theorize about decentralized social media as if it's a new idea. I'm not afraid that they'll do better, I'm afraid that high-profile plans like Aave's will fail, and people will conclude it's impossible to prevent spam or to distribute rewards fairly.

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I understand what you are saying about Twitter. I know it's frustrating to see all these platforms attempting to copy what Hive already has. But that will continue, and we should be proud we are sources of inspiration and continue to develop (that's the only way to stay ahead). What I don't like either is that very few give us credit, even when Hive was the source of inspiration.

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Great post, @gadrian. This is a lot of new information for me. Nice to have it spelt out for the users.

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Thanks Jon! Yes, I believe it covers quite a bit, not everything very easy to understand by someone new to Hive.

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Thank you for bringing us this interesting information. Well, it's been two years, how time flies, two years the currency at a value of $1, another year I know that Hive will be between $10.

PS: Post read from Listnerd, I recently activated.

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Yes, it seems so long ago when Hive was 11 cents, doesn't it?

Congrats for joining Listnerds and using it!

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That's right Hive was only worth a few cents. Now after two years it has grown stronger.

If I only have a few weeks, I'm basic level... I'm starting when I get a little more money I'll see if I can subscribe

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Great post. I agree on everything, even with the ending part related to what Hive still needs. I would add aggressive marketing to that.

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Aggressive marketing happens. Look at Khal! Look at Splinterlands! No, they don't say Hive left and right, but more and more of the people they bring in end up on other parts of Hive as well.

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Great article and some history.
I find your article and @Revisesociology article to be looking at two sides of a coin.
"the percentage controlled by Whale accounts (now the top 37 accounts) is now 49.3%"
https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@revisesociology/creeping-inequality-in-hive-inevitable-when-people-don-t-buy-in

Both are probably true and I have no idea what to think of it.

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I have his post open in a tab, but haven't got to read it yet. Was out most of the evening. But this is a good time to do it.

Let's think of this this way: we are both right. Whales combined do represent a huge stake, but it'll be very difficult to make many of those whales agree to do something to hurt Hive (or in some instances to agree with each other). And 37 is a decent number. It's not like 5 or 10. Plus, some of them are totally anonymous apart from the username on Hive.

But it wouldn't hurt if we'd improve the distribution a bit.

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great to see you at a 2 year period on hive and I also see your point getting better in joining hive and using it.
There are many ways to join hive now but there are fewer active members on it though. We are finding new ways to get people involved in this Platform so we can grow, we will get it right in one way or another. We will get there sooner or later.

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The interesting part is there are a lot of active people on Hive, actually (or accounts at least). But many of them don't really know it or are interested about it, other than the activity they do. If you look how many accounts post custom jsons daily (play games, in most cases), that is 500k. Much higher than around 5k who post or comment daily currently (it was about 18k at the beginning of the year).

That means half a million people (accounts) play games daily on Hive.

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So many strengths, but you are right about the HIVE / HMB issues. I think a big thing for me, on a side note, is it's still hard for a regular Joe or Jill to understand why we need all these account keys...Onboarding is still a challenge.

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I wonder if the Active key should be renamed to something more easier to understand by the regular person. Something like Permissions key, maybe?

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I think you are spot on and I have to agree that there should be ways to promote Hive afterward they join the application. I like how Splinterlands or LeoFinance promotes it. They have a link to blogging on CubDefi and Splinterlands is always rewarding people for writing content about the game.

I still think the applications are the best way to move people towards us and it's hard to convince someone if they don't even desire an account.

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Applications make sense to masses. The underlying layer (blockchain in our case) only makes sense to a small part of them. It's like cars and engines. Everyone drives a car. But how many know or care about the technical details of the engine? I mean apart from engine experts and fans.

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Great overview!

This is something I already see happening a lot. Instead of seeming like Hive maximalists shilling, it's better to focus on promoting various apps on Hive. The underlying layer is important, but not to the average user who we generally target.

This is key!
I'm the perfect example of that. I started playing Splinterlands then I found out about hive.

If people shill Hive directly, some people may get curious and look around to see what's going on here but they will most likely get overwhelmed because there's too much stuff to follow.

Shill the app--> people get hooked and stay---> find out about hive later.
That's a better way to onboard people imo.

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Exactly! We've been doing this in reverse for so long. And not just Hive, crypto in general.

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I notice from the Blocktivity table you entered that HIVE has surpassed projects like EOS and XRP. Thanks for sharing this information

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That happened quite some time ago. We are often ahead of Tron too. When there are end-of-seasons at Splinterlands almost certainly.

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I really like your overview on this. Hive is still processing change, and I think we're both far from the best thing but also on our way.

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Crypto in general keeps evolving at a rapid pace. Hive cannot be any different.

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Wow! I could not imagine what Hive will be like in 10 years with so many developments in its second year. Though not complete, the developments you mentioned are already difficult to catch up with. Yes, Happy Anniversary Hive!

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I don't think we can foresee as far ahead as 3 years. 10 years is an eternity in crypto.

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Yes, I learned earlier that a 6-month project is already considered an established one.

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