Dan Larimer Agrees To Have A Public Conversation. Will Vitalik Accept The Challenge?

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This is a follow up and an update on my post from two days ago, where I shared an idea of Vitalik Buterin VS Dan Larimer Debate Hosted By Hive. Many on Hive do not use twitter, and may have have missed Dan's response. I had a busy day and only saw Dan's tweet an hour ago. Feel free to visit the tweet and express your interest in such a public conversation between these two brilliant minds of blockchain technologies.

This was a simple thought that I think would be really interesting and educational to see, especially if it is hosted on a decentralized platform like Hive. I didn't expect anything to come out of it, still don't. It was a pleasant surprise to see Dan's tweet welcoming this idea. Here is what Dan has tweeted:

I would love to have a public conversation with @VitalikButerin
I have much respect for his work even if we disagree on things from time to time. I think we could both learn something and everyone would benefit.

~ Dan Larimer

We are 50% there. Now if Vitalik accepts this invitation, this may actually happen. Of course this is a big question. Will he? Considering that Vitalik and Dan have known each other for a long time, and Vitalik is familiar with Hive blockchain and its community, he might just say "Why not? Let's do this!"

I really do see some educational benefits of such a public conversation. Many commented in my previous post expressing similar interests. I suggested that hosts of Community Coin Talk or CryptoManiacs would be great to host this conversation. I haven't asked them directly though, so not sure if they are even interested. CryptoWendyO liked the idea too. Maybe she could organize such an event?

Let's hope there will be another surprise tweet and this time by Vitalik. If not, it's ok. At least we tried.

Eth is east, Eos is west, when it comes to blockchains Hive is the best. :)

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It will be definitely awesome if he accepted such invite

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This would be an awesome thing to see. Thanks for trying to get it going.

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It‘s almost shocking to see that tweet succeed, when did Twitter become so powerful? But still, considering your action very impressive and gz already for the milestone.

Now all we need is to trigger the big boy as well and b00m!

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I told all the doubters in chat that he would do it haha

Dan debates all around!

We will all get to have a chance to talk to dan! Ask him about how Hive and EOS work together with edenos and using hive or telos to control a hive wallet with key permissions or posting keys etc. Its all very possible and the wax use of hive style P5 keys for nft transfer links proves its all very possible and probably fun to develop if you care about both hive and eos

I think the synergy of wax nfts for edenos selfies, eos smart contracts and hive for the upvoting and web of trust, all hosted on @telosnetwork Dstor.cloud to one day replace AWS, will be a great machine. The Synergy of the EOSIO / DPOS chains can be epic.

Let's get @dan to officially post on Hive asking hive devs for help brainstorming ideas for connecting the edenos telegram tipit twitter ID system to Hive, or I believe he has some ideas already as he has mentioned using "hive eos and wax" together for a digital ID ... its pretty cool.... very intuitive and feels like intellectual legos... hive for social, eos for smart contracts (and its own clarion social but maybe thats how hive plugs in with @hivepress ) and then wax selfie NFTs (maybe using those super animated selfies )

There is literally more things to do in EOS+HIVE than we have time to develop, so we should focus on streamlining the hive code to work directly with eosio chains and give EOS the idea of hive and reward pools and how steemit worked ... while teaching hive users eosio (eos and telos ) and that is more important.... as the talent from hive needs to come INTO EOS and telos more specifically! But we all should work together as delegated proof of stake Voltron!

If Vitalik is too busy, we could have @dan debate DOUGLAS HORN @dapperd i believe or reach him on https://t.me/hellotelos

Ask douglas to debate dan about his EOS vs the quasi Fork, the independent eosio main net @telosnetwork https://telos.net and TLOS is basically doing all the things eos promised from storage to governance proposal (telos decide) system, to ethereum virtual machine, all working beyond the MVP stage. and its all eosio so eos can just copy this

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(real: Google "telos hive partnership" for sept 23rd 2021 official story )

... but hive integrating telos, is just like the first Blockchain dpos/eosio marriage creating hopefully some incredible hybrid system that can then reach out into ethereum world with the telos EVM .... this can be how @klye gets his Hive EVM! Through telos

a main net to main net level hard fork integration where both sides built the ports to merge their chains and send ships over... can end up with hive witnesses running inside telos https://dstor.cloud and all our media hosted on there too- like how @dbuzz uses ipfs image hosting (which as we can see has some issues with speed and showing up on various front ends- which maybe dstor's faster paid system can solve-using dapp beneficiary rewards to directly pay the overhead hosting fees of the dapps so their self sufficient)

So a Douglas Horn vs Dan Larimer Debate would be really healthy for the blockchain space right now just make sure they each have 2 hype man/woman/people/z/etc each

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I've already got over half the EVM for HIVE built, currently the part that needs worked on is the transmogrification of the different key types and automated ENS (Ethereum Name Service) contracts so we can still use our usernames as addresses.. After that will be some atomic swap style bridges, then after that just a matter of setting up the staking / node parameters and it should be good. Already had a small 4 node version of it running locally getting the on EVM chain bridge oracle going. :)

Just got sidetracked on other chains currently, understandably there is a bit of conflict of interests by those that could give me funding to do this on here, so raising funds doing dev elsewhere and then when I can afford few months dev time I need to finish it off and launch, will do so.

Hoping for end of Q1 but we will see, if somehow I manage to get mine going before BT and his 40 man team gets theirs goign I'm not even sure what the hell to say, I'm still lining up to bring us into a modern era in regards to being able to use our HIVE though.. This existing chain shall be the blog chain, but the new one will actually make us somewhat competitive, or at the very least bring us up to date and allow for interoperability with other chains.

Thanks for the mention captain (ackza?), cheers!

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I have no idea who Douglas Horn is. :)

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he is the co founder and white paper co author of @telosnetwork
which sorta came from eos, which sorta came from steem (like hive)

it gives us a lot more smart contract power to use

heres how OG he is, he took @appics from steem!

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This would just be great to get Dan, Vitalik Douglas Horn ( @dapperd ) and even @ned scott ..... so we could have HIVE (without a founder except maybe @blocktrades and @aggroed ? ) hosting a chat between the founders of Ethereum, Steemit, EOS and Telos

(AND I WOULD LOVE to see founders of Cardano thrown in there so everyone from Douglas down to Vitalik to all make fun of them lol just by discussing how they were already done competing with parts of the race ADA and others are just now starting to test like a simple DEX... with ethereum working WITH eosio through telos EVM we can open up a world of chain within chain / cross chain/ IBC Inter Blockchain Communications to discuss with a Buterin Larimer Scott Horn talk

Now that'd be a great summit for some sort of hive eosio metaverse to host here using Hive AMAs where we showcase all the ways Hive ALREADY plugs into Eth, EOS telos and even WAX with @splinterlands (telos and wax are also eosio by the way)

This could be really historic and valued a lot more in the future.

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If you ask me, I'll tell you that this is definitely going to happen. There will be so much to learn

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It will be a great development and achievement on hives blockchain and community

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I think either Podcast would be a great choice and I would like to watch this debate. I don't know if I can watch it live but if I don't, I'll watch the re-run. I really hope Vitalik does follow through and gets this conversation going.

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Doubt Vitalik will give him the time of day.

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you know for once in your entire life you said something i agree with marky mark. these folks are optimistic for nothing. Vitalik doesn't even agree with other eth forks. what exactly makes you all think he's going to agree to waste time with a heavily centralized and power concentratred network like this. he'd just see it as an immediate security concern. he already has this debate every week, lol

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you know for once in your entire life you said something i agree with marky mark.

I'll try to contain my excitement.

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I'll try to contain my excitement.

🤣🤣🤣🤣

Cg

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I agree with you , if the debate eventually happens it will sure be of educational benefits to we hivers due to the fact that these two blockchain heavyweights will be dishing out and disseminating top notch information about the cryptosphere and its peculiarities. I hope Vitalik takes up the challenge ..

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That's so cool! great work on this. that was fast! Let's see what happens now.. :)

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It could be a milestone for HIVE, thank you for your efforts.

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What a slogan!

Eth is east, Eos is west, when it comes to blockchains Hive is the best!!!

Listening to such CTT would be great!

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hope things go well and I will also like to see what happens at the end of the day, I saw the post on Twitter but didn't know them that much but now I will be following them and seeing what they are offing to the hive and blockchain in general.

Eth is east, Eos is west, when it comes to blockchains Hive is the best. :)
sweet rhymes, and it makes sense and true also

👍

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This is coming to fruition
I like that.
Education benefits the world including Hive community.
A big up for you.

!BEER

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we are so close to having a much needed debate for this blockchain, no doubt its prospects will work out well

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Fantastic!!! It will be another step in moving the crypto-dialogue forward.

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Well I'm really very active in Twitter and I always get notification whenever Dan sir post any update because I'm one of his fan. Thanks for highlighting these things.

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The best news I heard today! We can have some good old intellectual debates on blocckhain. This might even be the cause for another HIVE pump. I'm not all that interested in short term price of HIVE. Getting more users onbaord is a different story. We need lots and lots of users.

A blockchain debate with enough press coverage can be one of the best platforms to showcase the features of HIVE and expose more people to HIVE DAPPS.
!PIZZA
!LUV

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it would be great to see this happen for so many reasons. Two of the brightest minds in crypto hosted by hive.

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Eth is east, Eos is west, when it comes to blockchains Hive is the best. :)
I love this.

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I think either Podcast would be a great choice
and I would like to watch this debate. 👀

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Vitalik is a cult-like figure in cryptocurrency and he talked positively about Hive on multiple occasions. it's not impossible for him to agree (at least i hope so)

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