JustOneThing - Just How Viable Is Listnerds?

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Daily Prompt: "Viable"

In early January 2022 Listnerds.com was re-launched as a "the world's first blockchain-based mailer."

(For those not in the know, a "mailer" or "safelist" is a program that allows you to promote your offers to the safelist membership list without getting accused of spamming.)

As I had a longstanding "lifetime Premium" membership of the first version of Listnerds I was quite happy to try out the new blockchain-based version and earn myself some of the new LISTNERDS second-tier tokens on the Hive blockchain.

Since the launch value of the token was 2 Hive a pop I assumed that it would not be so easy to earn LISTNERDS at my rate of activity. So I set myself a target of "200 tokens" by the end of 2022!

Boy, was I wrong about that - in a good way! By 3rd April I had already more than DOUBLED my yearly target!

Here's what I wrote in early April 2022:

I think everybody who has been using Listnerds to publicize their content or promote their offers has been surprised and delighted by the rate at which they’ve been getting those LISTNERDS rewards.

My progress has been quite modest compared to those such as @jimmy.adames who have gone full Enterprise beast mode and post on Listnerds every single day and now have several thousand tokens to their names.

Source: https://ctptalk.com/@hirohurl/my-crypto-accumulation-progress-report-march-2022

Inspired By TaskMaster on CryptoManiacs

Around that time I listened to a CryptoManiacs podcast hosted by @jongolson and @taskmaster4450 in which TaskMaster talked about how viable it would be for Listnerds members who use the platform to its full potential to create a fulltime replacement income from their efforts.

That got me thinking!

I spent the rest of April happily working with Listnerds at the Premium membership level - heck, I'd got more than my lifetime subscription back from my Listnerd activities YEARS AGO, so sitting on a Premium level subscription on the new Listnerds was like free money in the bank! Zero out-of pocket investment was yielding me several hundred LISTNERDS tokens a month... So why rock the boat?

However, I could also see how much MORE the fast movers such as @jimmy.adames who had upgraded to "Enterprise" were earning. So I spent April going over the figures and my options again and again.

Then, at the beginning of May, I opted to go all in with an Enterprise upgrade, AND committed to blogging on Peakd every single day and promoting my blog posts on Listnerds.

The figures went something like this:

  • If I upgrade to Enterprise, my investment will go up from $0 per month to $97 per month...

  • On the other hand, I'll get a free monthly solo email. If I use it on the first day, at current reward rates, I will earn my subscription back AND MORE in LISTNERD tokens alone (at their current value).

  • In addition, I'll earn more credits per click, so I can send more solo ads per month. My target is one solo ad per week as well as the free solo ad that comes with the subscription.

  • 5 x solo ads, each generating around 100 LISTNERDS = 500 tokens per month (at current earning rates).

  • Also, an Enterprise account allows you to post two mails per day. That gives me a lot more exposure than on the Premium account and means more opportunities to get my mails verified.

  • Since my mails will reach more subscribers, my chances of getting them "verified" will increase, earning me more LISTNERDS every week, or even every day if I get good at giving the active subscribers content they are happy to upvote.

Let's say I get one of my mails verified each day, and the average yield is 100 LISTNERDS. That brings in 3,000 LISTNERDS per month!

(NOTE: This figure depends on how many Listnerds are released and how many members qualify for that day's payout. This is not financial advice, just me pontificating about hypothetical situations...)

How do you get your mails verified?

You need to get a surplus of 20< upvotes. You can make it easier for yourself by providing the Listnerds membership with content that they are interested in checking out.

This is what is unique about Listnerds. People will upvote you (for the most part) if you put in the graft and create unique and compelling content every single day.

Shock Announcement! You Have To Put Some Skin In The Game

If you commit to being an Enterprise member you have a very good chance of getting one or two of your daily emails "verified" by the Listnerds members, and that guarantees you a share of that day's LISTNERD tokens.

Here's some simple earning projections to give you a rough idea of what's on offer if you send one solo ad per week and get one mail verified per day:

3,000 + 500 (from the solo mails) = 3,500 LISTNERDS per month.

If LISTNERDS = 2 Hive = 7,000 Hive per month...

If LISTNERDS = 1.5 Hive = 5,250 Hive per month...

If LISTNERDS = 1 Hive = 3,500 Hive per month...

The BIG question:

"Just how viable is Listnerds as a vehicle for financial independence?"

If we are talking about LISTNERDS tokens, then the question seems to hinge on two things:

  1. The value of LISTNERDS in HIVE...

  2. The value of HIVE in your local currency...

(Oh, and 3. how much you'll get taxed for cashing out your crypto...)

If LISTNERDS drop in value to just one Hive and Hive crashes to $0.10 then you probably shouldn't cash out! LOL! But if you do, you'd still get around $350, which can make a big difference to a family on a tight budget.

But that is something like the worst-case scenario. Over the longer term I expect Hive to rise in value and LISTNERDS to hold its value above 1 HIVE.

We Are Early In This Game: Don't Be In A Hurry To Cash Out

Also I think it is more important to set long term goals and keep on increasing your stockpile of staked LISTNERDS to increase your daily earning rate.

We are very early in this game, and I think it is more important to grow a substantial war-chest of tokens than to cash out at the first opportunity.

There will only ever be 20,000,000 LISTNERD tokens, so why not aim to own as large a chunk of that total as possible, like 1,00,000 or 2,00,000 tokens and then think about viability.

My personal goal is to accumulate 10,000 LISTNERDS before I start to unstake and sell off any tokens.

When I do start to unstake tokens each day, I will make sure the amount I unstake is no more than 50% of the daily token earnings so that I can continue to grow my holdings in LISTNERDS while also using a portion of them to grow my other tokens or to cash out and enjoy life with!

Listnerds As An Affiliate Marketing Program

One final thought on the viability of LISTNERDS - I think it is also up to us to bring in more Listnerds subscribers and to build our membership base with a new generation of members who are keen to create content on the Hive blockchain and to promote it on Listnerds.

To do that they will need to join us in accumulating LISTNERDS tokens, and that in turn will drive up demand for those tokens... and you know what increasing demand affects, don't you!

In addition, the more active Listnerds members you refer, the more you will earn in commissions on the affiliate marketing side of Listnerds. That will increase the viability of the program, and of our dreams to become financially independent through Listnerds.

So, do I think Listnerds is viable as a machine for achieving financial independence?

Yes! Especially when you use it to promote your own unique content on the Hive blockchain. So get creating, publishing and Listnerding to make Listnerds.com a viable path to financial independence for you and your family.

This is the future.

Embrace it while it's still new!

Cheers!

David Hurley

#InspiredFocus

#JustOneThing



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5 years this has been happening to me, it started here, around people that are still here. Homeland security has done nothing at all, they are not here to protect us. Dont we pay them to stop shit like this? The NSA, CIA, FBI, Police and our Government has done nothing. Just like they did with the Havana Syndrome, nothing. Patriot Act my ass. The American government is completely incompetent. The NSA should be taken over by the military and contained Immediately for investigation. I bet we can get to the sources of V2K and RNM then. https://peakd.com/gangstalking/@acousticpulses/electronic-terrorism-and-gaslighting--if-you-downvote-this-post-you-are-part-of-the-problem

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5 years this has been happening to me, it started here, around people that are still here. Homeland security has done nothing at all, they are not here to protect us. Dont we pay them to stop shit like this? The NSA, CIA, FBI, Police and our Government has done nothing. Just like they did with the Havana Syndrome, nothing. Patriot Act my ass. The American government is completely incompetent. The NSA should be taken over by the military and contained Immediately for investigation. I bet we can get to the sources of V2K and RNM then. https://peakd.com/gangstalking/@acousticpulses/electronic-terrorism-and-gaslighting--if-you-downvote-this-post-you-are-part-of-the-problem

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5 years this has been happening to me, it started here, around people that are still here. Homeland security has done nothing at all, they are not here to protect us. Dont we pay them to stop shit like this? The NSA, CIA, FBI, Police and our Government has done nothing. Just like they did with the Havana Syndrome, nothing. Patriot Act my ass. The American government is completely incompetent. The NSA should be taken over by the military and contained Immediately for investigation. I bet we can get to the sources of V2K and RNM then. https://peakd.com/gangstalking/@acousticpulses/electronic-terrorism-and-gaslighting--if-you-downvote-this-post-you-are-part-of-the-problem

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Outstanding post David. Thank you #justonething for choosing viable as today's word. I am reblogging this so more people can see it.

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I come from Listnerds.

One questions, if i read an email and click to visit, can i get value? I still confuse.

Thanks

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Hi @kizunasport - Thanks for clicking through from Listnerds.

When you click a link inside a mail on Listnerds, you earn Mail Credits (just like on a typical safelist).

!CTP

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you earn Mail Credits..

Ok thanks, I see it increase.

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Thanks for sharing your listnerds experience. I just joined for like 3-4days and this type of information is very important for me to understand listnerds better. thanks.

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Thanks for sharing your experience. I like your way of thinking. Ive only unstaked a few ListNerds so that I can have some liquid ListNerds tokens for any possible uses that may come up.

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Good point. Having some liquid LISTNERDS on hand could be useful if you want to buy into other tokens at any time.

BTW, any LISTNERDS you win on the random "shaky shaky" prize** are liquid devlivered to your account in a liquid state so you don't need to go through the 10 week unstaking process but can use them immediately.

** The "shaky shaky" is a random prize you can win when you click the link inside somebody's Listnerds email. Prizes vary. When you win, the email does a little "shaky-shaky" jiggle and has a coloured border.

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I'm on my third month of Enterprise and it's difficult to quantify whether it has been worth it. That's close to $300 sunk into the system... have I earned over $300 back? Given that cryptos have all tanked, no. But I have increased my influence and traffic to my blog.

I've accumulated almost 8K LISTNERD tokens, theoretically they're worth about a dollar (2 HIVE) each - from that perspective, I turned $300 into $8000... except it takes 10 weeks (70 days) to unstake and there is not enough buy orders to really "cash out". So do I really have $8000 dollars in tokens? Sounds good on paper, that's for sure!

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Thanks for your perspective on Listnerds so far, @ironshield - do I detect a note of pessimism there? 😊

As for the ten week unstaking process, that is common knowledge now and can be factored into our calculations. I recommend what I call the "Bradley Strategy" whereby you aim for a certain number of staked LISTNERDS and then unstake a percentage of your fresh LISTNERDS earnings each day so that, ten weeks down the line, you will have primed the pump and start receiving a flow of liquid LISTNERDS while still growing your stake.

True, the market is not flush with token buyers at the moment, but the project is not yet six months old.

I had a peep at LISTNERDS on Hive-Engine just now and there's a Buy order for 2,442 LISTNERDS at 1.5 Hive a pop, so not too shabby.

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!ALIVE

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I don't mean to be pessimistic, maybe slightly skeptical. Yes listnerds is very new and we're seeing new updates and changes all the time. I think that's what's been getting me to sign up three times now. Having some significant buy orders at 1.5 hive is better than nothing.

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Terrific insight David. Those predictions definitely give me encouragement that increasing my activity on Listnerds will get me where I want to be sooner rather than later, and way quicker than with traditional affiliate marketing. Thanks for sharing.

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Hi @stevermac1966 - Glad you found some value in my post. I'm still working with affiliate marketing, but I must admit that blogging on Hive and posting on LISTNERDS is a lot more fun and feels a lot more rewarding.

I recommend that you follow @taskmaster4450 for some more informed and inspiring posts about the potential of Hive based projects.

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!ALIVE

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Nice take on the viability of #ListNerds, David. I like that you even included worse-case scenarios.
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Thanks @beststart - as @ironshield noted, it all looks good on paper, and I think the prospects are good, but in the end, as with any investment, nobody knows for sure!

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What a great write up. I found it on Listnerds by the way. I am with you, I think whatever that LN to Hive ratio ends up being will tell us how viable this is going to be. Right now it is looking pretty good. I like working in whole numbers, so I just powerdown each day the extra that I get. If I get 116 LN, I just unstake 16. It has been working out really well. Those rewards you get from staking aren't to be ignored, they really add to your daily haul!

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Hi @bozz - thanks for popping over from Listnerds. I like your "round number" approach to unstaking LISTNERDS. Once the liquid LISTNERDS start flowing you'll have a nice chunk of change to spend every day!

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!ALIVE

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I hope so! At the very least enough to sustain my membership, but it would be really cool to build my HIVE bags some more!

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“You Have To Put Some Skin In The Game” love that @hirohurl and awesome breakdown of your journey being a member and using ListNerds and like many of us; we’re members pre HIVE days.

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Yes, @jimmy.adames , the "Lifetime Premium" deal that I bought about ten years ago (??) turned out to be a pretty good investment! I was really reluctant to let it go by upgrading to Premium, but your testimonials really woke me up to the potential on offer.

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!ALIVE

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Thanks for a viable insight glad to read the perspective from someone that's been in the Listnerds game a bit longer than me

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Great breakdown of the Viability of Listnerds and some great comments below. I am still yet to take the plunge, as 'Cashing Out' as you say, I still have not ever cashed out any crypto and am not even sure I know how, to make it a viable option for me, the monthly cash investments are all good if I could see that return, 97 a month US is $136 Aus dollars.

I agree that if LISTNERDS Earns enough points each month to cash out to HIVE and then Upgrade using HIVE makes it worthwhile, its the cash out delay cycle that cost up front, once the cash out cycle is in sync with monthly Upgrades then all good :)

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Hi @russellstockley - I see the $97 a month as an investment not just in Listnerds but in the Hive blockchain, so my short-term aim is not to cash out and break even but to grow my account until I have around 10,000 LISTNERDS staked. At that point I will begin to unstake a portion of my daily earnings each day to "prime the liquidity pump" while continuing to grow my staked position.

I also haven't yet cashed out any HIVE. Maybe I'll look at that option next year...

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!ALIVE

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Great writeup and insights in ListNerds!

There will only ever be 20,000,000 LISTNERD tokens, so why not aim to own as large a chunk of that total as possible, like 1,00,000 or 2,00,000 tokens and then think about viability.

This is where I believe the value is going to come in. With increased adoption and use, the limited amount of LISTNERDS should increase the value over time.

I do believe there will be a point where it's going to drop off a bit, but if the main stakeholders keep holding onto the majority of LISTNERDS, it will drive demand, then gradually increase in value. That's what I'm hoping for, at least, hahha.

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Thanks @therneau - another point to consider is the team behind the project. I'm pretty sure they will be coming up with ways to expand the "use case" of LISTNERDS over the next few years, which could also help to drive up demand for the token...

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!ALIVE

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!ALIVE

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Thanks @bradleyarrow - always good to be "approved" by Mr. Positivity!

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Because this is such an awesome post, here is a BBH Tip for you. . Keep up the fantastic work

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Because this is such an awesome post, here is a BBH Tip for you. . Keep up the fantastic work

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Many thanks for this mail. I saw it on Listnerds. I was eager to click to hear your response to the question. I was just having this discussion with my upline. I am only here for 1 1/2 weeks but like any other product there needs to be demand for the product to grow and survive.

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Hi @momogrow - you're welcome! Thanks for popping by and checking out my post.

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So I set myself a target of "200 tokens" by the end of 2022!

Funny! Mine is 100 and then changed to 500 and finally, I settled with 1,000.

I think everybody who has been using Listnerds to publicize their content or promote their offers has been surprised and delighted by the rate at which they’ve been getting those LISTNERDS rewards.

Yes, totally unexpected!

Then, at the beginning of May, I opted to go all in with an Enterprise upgrade, AND committed to blogging on Peakd every single day and promoting my blog posts on Listnerds.

That's an inspiring example!

We are very early in this game . . .

I thought I was late when I started the first week of March.

Thanks!

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Hi @rzc24-nftbbg - I think anybody who is getting a share of the current daily release of LISTNERDS is "early" in the game. Eventually the amount of LISTNERDS being released each day will go down...

The new Listnerds has been a pleasant surprise all round!

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!ALIVE

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Yea, I observe such a reduction too for the last two weeks. Thinking of upgrading to Enterprise by July.

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I don't think the reduction is in the amount of LISTNERDS made available each day just yet. 5% of the staked LISTNERDS total are issued as new LISTNERDS every day until 2,000,000 have been issued. So far, only 380,343 have been issued.

More likely there are more people who qualify for them now than before.

If you can upgrade in July you should be in time to enjoy the 5% issue rate for a while. Good luck!

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!ALIVE

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I am also lost on how to explain the discrepancy between my May 6 and May 13 emails. My first email has 51.476 upvotes and has been rewarded with 109 LISTNERDS. After the vote value update, my upvotes increased in my next email to 57.304 but the rewards decreased to 66 LISTNERDS.

How do you track the number of tokens being issued? Is it the same number posted as the total supply on listnerds.com?

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