Everyone wants their place in the Sun here at POB
Whether openly for all to see or more internally everyone is looking for their place in the sun here at POB. Yes, everyone! But who deserves a place in the sun? Whoever is smarter!
Although I always say that there is no right or wrong (apart from serious cases and for a good relationship), everyone can and should do what they want.
The community is testing you all the time and many people are watching and analyzing you. Even more than anywhere else in my view. By the way, this is a Brain Test at the end.
Just take a quick look at the topics in Trending, which are mostly about topics like this. Some good others not so good. It's people wanting to give governance ideas, like voting, asking for delegations and this and that. Everyone wants to get their place in the sun and sit in the best armchair... Is that wrong? No! Everybody wants! Who didn't want to get good votes on all their posts? Have a whale automatically voting your posts no matter what you write? Win Fat delegations, win contests, be the darling of influential people? Aaaah, STOP! Everyone would like. Some show more, others less. But everyone wants to stand out and increase their earnings here no matter what. Now... What is the purpose of this? At what cost do you need to have it all?
Each has their "whys" here. But it seems to me some forget the main thing: COMMON SENSE.
I don't want to dwell on this, as I go too far in my life philosophies, so in short I want to say that common sense is what you know you should do good sometimes not only for yourself but for others. And knowing that karma sometimes happens... I've seen many around here like this xD
Amidst rules, governance and proposals (which unfortunately are necessary) people forget common sense. POB showed how the society itself is sick. Why do countries suffer from their politicians? Why in my case, I'm Brazilian, do people complain so much about the president and blame him? (I don't want to say he's right and I don't defend him or any other government this country has ever had to make clear). Simply because who is governing there and the government policy that exists is a reflection of our daily lives. We are always responsible for all misfortunes and mistakes that happen. But it's much easier to blame someone else, the government, the president (remembering that they are really guilty too).
What I want to show is that the POB of these months with a bright future was lost simply for our own reasons. We cannot live in society properly if we do not create confusion, quarrels and discord. And sometimes it is necessary... Because someone decided to go beyond the limit of common sense, who is there using their "expertise" to enrich themselves or take advantage... Who has not thought about the good of society as a whole and others. .. And one thing leads to another and here we are ... Needing to create a government to dictate rules in a blockchain ... Look how stupid for lack of common sense in the community!
Finally, I'll comment on something I said in the @trostparadox post about DV proposals and rules...
Why do we waste time discussing bad things when we could discuss good things? Before we worry about a DV (which I know in the end is necessary, but these are isolated cases that make a lot of noise... Like a plane crash) don't we worry about voting and contributing to contests and good posts?
If you get the TOP POB today, everyone could work together helping in the contests... Those who are participating in the OFFICIAL contests made by the POB and correctly, within the rules of a real POB, get good votes... And no petty votes, the same good wishes that are given crookedly and right there without a common cause end....
Remembering that everyone does what they want, but if we have to start talking about what we have to do, why not encourage those who participate, create and actually write in the contests?
I don't want to tag any other whales here, but whoever can share and comment what you think ;)
Todo mundo quer seu lugar ao sol aqui no POB
Seja abertamente para todos verem ou mais internamente todos estão procurando seu lugar ao sol aqui no POB. Sim, todo mundo! Mas quem é que merece um lugar ao sol? A quem for mais esperto!
Embora eu sempre diga que não tem o certo ou errado (tirando casos graves e para bom convívio) cada um pode e deve fazer o que bem entender.
A comunidade está lhe testando a todo momento e muitas pessoas estão lhe vendo e analisando. Ainda mais do que qualquer outro lugar ao meu ver. Aliás, isso é uma Prova de Cérebro no final.
Basta você olhar rápido pelo tópicos em Trending que a maioria é sobre assuntos assim. Alguns bons outros nem tanto. É pessoas querendo dar ideias de governança, como votar, pedindo delegações e isso e aquilo. Todo mundo quer buscar o seu lugar ao sol e sentar na melhor poltrona... Está errado? Não! Todos querem! Quem é que não queria ganhar bons votos em todas as suas postagens? Ter uma baleia votando automático em seus posts não importando o que você escreva? Ganhar Gordas delegações, vencer concursos, ser o queridinho dos influentes? Aaaah, PARE! Todo mundo gostaria. Alguns mostram mais, outros menos. Mas todos querem ter destaque e aumentar seus ganhos aqui não importa o meio. Agora... Qual será a finalidade disso? A que custo você precisa para ter tudo isso?
Cada um tem os seus "porquês" aqui. Mas ao que me parece alguns esquecem do principal: BOM SENSO.
Eu não quero me alongar nisso, pois eu vou longe nas minhas filosofias de vida, então resumindo quero dizer que o bom senso é aquilo que você sabe que deve fazer de bom ás vezes não só para você mas para os outros. E saber que o karma ás vezes acontece... Eu já vi muitos por aqui assim xD
No meio de regras, governança e propostas (que são necessárias infelizmente) as pessoas esquecem do bom senso. O POB tem se mostrado como a sociedade em si está doente. Por que países sofrem com seus políticos? Por que no meu caso que sou brasileiro o pessoal reclama tanto do presidente e culpa ele? (Não quero dizer que ele esteja certo e nem defendo ele e nenhum outro governo que esse país já teve para deixar claro). Simplesmente porque quem está lá governando e a politica do governo que existe é o reflexo de nossas ações no dia a dia. Sempre somos nós os responsáveis por toda a desgraça e coisa errada que acontece. Mas é muito mais fácil colocar a culpa em outro, no governo, no presidente (lembrando que eles também são culpados de verdade).
O que eu quero mostrar é que o POB ao longo desses meses com um futuro brilhante se perdeu por simplesmente motivos nossos próprios. Não conseguimos viver em sociedade de maneira correta se não criarmos confusões, brigas e discórdias. E ás vezes é necessário... Porque alguém resolveu passar do limite do bom senso, que está lá usando sua "expertise" para se enriquecer ou tirar proveito disso... Que não pensou no bem da sociedade como um todo e no próximo... E uma coisa puxa a outra e aqui estamos agora... Precisando criar um governo para ditar regras em uma blockchain... Olha que coisa mais sem noção por falta do bom senso em coletividade!
Para finalizar, volto a comentar algo que eu falei no post do @trostparadox sobre propostas e regras de DV...
Por que a gente perde tempo discutindo coisas ruins se poderíamos discutir coisas boas? Antes de a gente se preocupar com um DV (que sei que no fim é necessário, mas são casos isolados que fazem muito barulho... Igual queda de avião) a gente não se preocupa em votar e contribuir com os concursos e bons posts?
Se você pegar os TOP POB hoje, todos poderiam trabalhar junto ajudando concursos... Aqueles que estiverem participando dos concursos OFICIAIS feito pelo POB e de maneira correta, dentro das regras de um POB real, ganha bons votos... E não míseros votos, os mesmos votos bons que são dado torto e a direita aí sem um final de causa comum....
Lembrando que cada um faz o que quiser, mas se temos que começar a dizer o que temos de fazer, então porque não fazemos o incentivo a quem participa, cria e escreve de verdade nos concursos?
Eu não quero marcar nenhuma outra baleia aqui, mas quem puder rebloga e comenta o que você pensa a respeito ;)
Além do fato de você estar com a língua, quer dizer, com os dedos afiados (haha!)... Não vou nem acrescentar nada a este post, porque eu concordo com tudo.
Sigo acreditando no futuro do projeto POB, mas tenho minhas ressalvas.
Eu também sigo acreditando. Sempre vi o potencial pela maneira que isso se tornou, criou e foi feita. As ressalvas são iguais que eu também tenho. O fato de como conduzir tudo isso agora.
Obrigado pelo apoio
Sometimes I'm not in the mood to see more of the same: how the community should be "run" ....today is one of those days for me. I'm not saying there are no rules and no talk about it because in the end it has to be done, but I think we could enjoy a bit more other things here: contests, comments, learning readings, skills readings, etc.
The controversy, the drama, the "DV" stuff...sometimes they stress me out and I think the network is to enjoy it even with its "bad" things, that's why it's "social"...or am I wrong?😏
En ocasiones no estoy de ánimo para ver más de lo mismo: cómo se debe "dirigir" la comunidad....hoy, es uno de esos días para mí. No digo que no existan reglas y que no se hable sobre ello porque al final debe hacerse, pero creo que pudiéramos disfrutar un poco más de otras cosas aquí: concursos, comentarios, lecturas de aprendizaje, de habilidades, etc.
La controversia, el drama, el tema "DV"...a veces me estresan y creo que la red es para disfrutarla aún con sus cosas "malas", por eso es "social"... o me equivoco?😏
Me too
Some time ago I even tried to encourage and create the week of positive posts, but that doesn't seem to be successful here hahaha
I understand your point of view and I agree with all of this. There is no one who does not want to rise and grow. And man, I get annoyed with these power struggles, I'm observing the behavior of some and trying to understand what advantage there is in "choosing a side", making "enemies" hahah it's even childish.
But apart from some noises there, I have seen the pob re-route very well, the necessary protocols and organizations are emerging, little by little we are building this structure that we are looking for here, I have been committed to being part of this as actively as possible and I hope to contribute in the best way. I think the most important thing is to follow through with what we already know:
-Post authentic and quality content.
-Actively participate in the community, either by Discord, by comments, or by votes (and better all together).
-Avoid unnecessary fights and personal attacks, that is not the focus.
We have great curators currently working, people are active and we don't need to be in that paranoia of the "admin" not being able to stay present anymore, because we are building this collective structure that can help each other in here.
Entendo seu ponto de vista e concordo com tudo isso. Não existe quem não queira subir e crescer. E cara, eu me irrito com essas brigas de poder, fico observando o comportamento de alguns e tentando entender que vantagem tem em "escolher um lado", fazer "inimigos" hahah chega a ser infantil até.
Mas fora algums ruidos aí, eu tenho visto o pob se re-encaminhar muito bem, estão surgindo os protocolos e as organizações necessárias, pouco a pouco estamos fazendo essa estrutura que procuramos aqui, tenho me comprometido em fazer parte disso o mais ativamente possível e espero contribuir da melhor forma. Acho que o mais importante é seguir com aquilo que sabemos já:
-Postar conteúdo autêntico e de qualidade.
-Participar ativamente da comunidade, seja por Discord, seja por comentários, seja por votos (e melhor tudo junto).
-Evitar brigas desnecessárias e ataques pessoais, esse não é o foco.
Temos ótimos curadores trabalhando atualmente, o pessoal está ativo e não precisamos mais ficar naquela paranoia do "admin" não poder se manter presente, por que estamos construindo essa estrutura coletiva que pode se ajudar aqui dentro.
Somente agora algumas curadorias parecem funcionar. Mas tem muito o que ser feito. Apesar que eu volto a repetir... Ninguém é obrigado a nada haha.
Mas se todos querem o bem da comunidade, então deviamos desfocar das coisas negativas e começar a pensar nas positivas, em como melhorar cada vez mais a curadoria e posts de engajamentos sérios e verdadeiros de prova de cérebro
Everyone here wants the best of POB and best for themselves too. It's good to see a price hike in POB today despite current downvoting proposal situation. You are absolutely right friend, we all should must focus on increasing content curation and engagement. There are so many good things here that should be discussed and encouraged. Instead of conflicts and arguments we should try to come together as a community and bring a better platform for all of us. 😊🙏
That is exactly how we need to be thinking, improving content creation, engagement, commenting and curation will benefit us all, but we must all do our little part in this growth to create s better community
Really? I didn't check hive-engine.
Yeah dear, POB beats leo and Hive again, currently at 0.328$. POB to the Moon 🚀🚀🌝☺️🙏
Don't rejoice yet, it's been fluctuating
Remember that this increase in value is all mere speculation.
Although yes, it's good to see the price going up. But as long as there is nothing really concrete, working, projects and a real POB use case here, the value will always be mere speculation. Even more so if someone with purchasing power spends buying a lot, it makes the price go up. This was one of the main reasons for the POB to rise in the beginning with the entry of whales... When it lost interest, we had the fall. So for a serious price, there's a lot of serious stuff to be done around here...
The opportunities are there if we each put in the time and effort, finding interesting content that others want to see and read is a daily battle but within reach, who doesn't like the sun and the rewards that come with it Lol
I find contests are a great way to gain awareness for your posts and as people start to see you regularly creating valuable content, meaningful commenting and engagement they are more likely to follow your work.
I believe that the key to success is perseverance, everything else can be learned over time.
That's for sure
We need all this work and daily dedication to grow. And it grows. Even if you are a lost fish there, with time it grows.
What I would like to see was more positive proposals around the pob thinking about good things and subjects than having to think about negative subjects.
I totally agree, positive posts and proposals bread positivity
This is going to be what we make it, or what we let others make it into if we chose to sit on the sidelines... that said, I am having fun hanging out on here and earning at the same time. Maybe I will make a tribe called "proof of chill" where you cannot take the exercise too seriously. (I don't think it would possibly work... there is no way it wouldn't turn into the most serious tribe as people would hold discussions on how to define "chill").
It's fun.
Dude, it would be interesting haha!
But I think the POB was a point off the curve in everything tribe around here. And we have a lot of potential if we know how to use...
lol! For real.
I would like to see a trending post that had nothing to do with "proofofbrain" but actually contained a real proof of brain.
What goes inside the mind of a POB writer:
10 minutes later...
That's the biggest problem I feel too.
Looking for good trending subjects I never find.
Apart from the stats and everything I like to see, but you hardly ever see anything genuine about something that isn't talking about the tribe itself
I like to follow POB, but if POB is only POB then we have some existential questions to take care.
It's Friday night here and I'd rather think about that later. I'm not even making a post today. I'll just watch other people collect my rewards. Tomorrow something will click.
Enjoy your weekend and stay cool.
Aqui ainda são 10:30 da manhã hahaha xD
I understand your reasons and how you're feeling totally but the things all of us have to understand is we all want the best for POB community.
We all share the same motive and seek towards the same goal but the difference is we all go about in different dimensions.
The community is all about creativity and initiative to create quality content which all of the participant to totally understand apart from the newbies that is still studying the community.
Bringing about governance in the community will impose fear that will make us deviate from the main cause or goals and objectives of creating this platform.
So I will say we all find a way to keep things quiet here and the question is if the decision body is set will they fulfill the purpose or will it be for authority on the shoulders?
So it better things are handled appreciate for the growth and betterment of the community
Thank you.
Portuguese;
Eu entendo suas razões e como você está se sentindo totalmente, mas as coisas que todos nós temos que entender é que todos queremos o melhor para a comunidade POB.
Todos nós compartilhamos o mesmo motivo e buscamos o mesmo objetivo, mas a diferença é que todos trabalhamos em dimensões diferentes.
A comunidade tem tudo a ver com criatividade e iniciativa para criar conteúdo de qualidade que todos os participantes possam entender totalmente, exceto os novatos que ainda estão estudando a comunidade.
Trazer governança na comunidade irá impor o medo que nos fará desviar da causa principal ou metas e objetivos de criar esta plataforma.
Então, eu direi que todos nós encontramos uma maneira de manter as coisas quietas aqui e a questão é: se o corpo de decisão foi estabelecido, eles cumprirão o propósito ou será para autoridade sobre os ombros?
Então, se as coisas forem tratadas melhor, aprecie o crescimento e a melhoria da comunidade
Obrigada.
Yes my friend
I want this too and we must do this thinking like a society in itself thinking about the good
I just wanted the same efforts to be made to discuss curators, community and participant incentives... And not the opposite of what you see out there.
That will be nice as it will bring about a good change in the community.
I just think we should just practice what we preach...
That must be the biggest truth! Even more so being a POB
But believe me, many just talk.
This is the Secret ….. Just buy as much POB on Hive-Engine as possible and Power up. I buy the dips every day and slowly amassed 5,000 POB. I’m not a whale but I get pretty damn good curation rewards …. Earned $2,000 in a few weeks.
This is fantastic.
I was buying LEO so too.
I get practically zero on LEO … I earn way more on https://Blurt.blog …. 650,000 Blurt …. $3,000 so far.
so what is the gig with blurt? - is it another tribe we can share posts to?
ps - i had a look - so it is separate and id have to find my follows again, each time with a pop us charging a fee?
it wouldn't let me upload my profile images.
there was no valuation of blut tokens in my wallet - i seem to have 245 from somewhere
trending content was pretty dire - its like a german version of steemit
it wouldn't hold my settings of dark mode or list view
those were my first impressions - not promising
@hranhuk I really appreciate ur post..in a community like this u never can say who is good or bad.. Some come with a very bad intentions to scatter things which I believe it shouldn't be..
As for the proposal written about the rules of down vote which I was able to read through when post via
"pob talk",i don't think it was too bad if everyone in the community knows the rules that guided DV
If u can remember in this community when DV was flipping around everywhere which almost cause a lot of issues in the community..where some where being down voted without even knowing their offend..i don't want to tag anyone but I can remenber a post that was created by a member complain on how he was down voted with any genuine reason for that...
I understand ur point that the time use in talking about this should have been use for another better thing but the point can never be ignored if will really need to have a place in the as ur topic because no one will be happy after u have worked and posted a lot and u are being down voted at the end it will look discouraged.
Yea!
I remember that, and several other situations by HIVE and Steemit times as well.
I don't say we shouldn't do this. It has to be done, unfortunately take care of it as I commented in the post.
I mean that we also have the same commitment, will and audience that we have for negative matters, being used for positive matters.
I appreciate your concerns. But I believe its too easy to judge someone’s intentions just by taking into account what seems to you like a read flag.
I have created a post about governance that went into trending, if it means to you that i am using my expertise to enrich myself then be it.
But then it might also mean to someone that you are trying to soothe the investors by being self righteous or politically correct.
The last time amr008’s governance post got this much reward it got pointed out. Even after he has been on this platform since so long continuously contributing value to the community.
But I don’t judge people’s intentions for making a post that ends up being loved by all whales.
So I don’t mind. I think these rewards are even less for the kind of intentions you posses towards the community. And I have no doubt in these people who have manually casted their vote to reward you. I am sure they are aware of that their vote has a significant weight. And If they are trying to encourage people who want to be in the sun? I am sure they know what is relevant and what is being thrown at but not required. But I can’t see why its just the creator who is at fault for creating a post to make hay in the sun and not the curator.
I think its harsh to judge anyone’s intentions pointing out just a couple of his/her activities that you think were not meant for the overall good of the platform but neglecting every other contribution made by him/her that might prove otherwise.
Also, i see nothing wrong in asking questions from top management and to make them accountable. There is a great saying that prevails in most democratic countries - “Always keep your critiques at an arms length.” Because they make you do better, they point out the discrepancies, they keep you accountable and eventually ensures that what they are trying to sustain doesn’t fall back because of the leader’s lack of commitment or motivation.
I think this post’s content is inclined more in favour of investors and significantly neglects the contribution and commitment of community members by cherry picking instances.
But to each, their own perception.
I understand your point of view and I agree.
But, I believe you didn't understand the essence of this post and message I left.
I'm not saying that creating posts regarding governance is just to get rich. One thing has nothing to do with the other.
I mean people looking at all costs to try to win, forgetting common sense and the good of the community. That's a point.
Second point I comment as we don't see so many posts about genuine pobs issues that are not related to the current situation of the tribe. And how we pay so much attention to cases like this.
I comment that all the effort is unfortunately needed by attitudes of people without notion, that's why we have to discuss about DV and many other things, all because in the end we don't know how to work as a society. One spoils many others and attracts attention.
And finally I comment that all this effort used to solve these negative problems, was also used and we had the same audience for positive posts talking about good things.
Just like @calumam did one today about the curatorship. That's what I'm talking about.
I believe that now I have been clearer and any questions, please comment.
I agree and with the gist you have provided .
I understand the essence of this post and what you are trying to convey but its not generalised rather specific and a few people will be able to relate to the specific details you have shared and will identify themselves as being referred to as con artists in a way. While also doubting their intentions.
I suggest you to be either balantly clear (specific) if you are trying to point someone out or be more generalized. Obviously no one stops here from putting forward an individual’s view about how they feel about something. But trying to simultaneously sail in two boats gonna trigger such responses.
I felt I was being doubted for my intentions, too quick and by just considering my one particular activity here. And others were too.
I admire your outlook towards the happenings in the community. But posts and rewards are something very fundamental aspect of this platform. No one just makes a post and deliberately asks to get rewarded. Any kind of content anyone creates here is eligible for rewards. As it contributes to the creation in community. Differentiating content based on a subjective standard of relavency is lame. And I am glad some people understand this here. And reward just not for how relevant a content is to them but also for how much efforts the author has put in it. POB as a community must reward everyone who is showing efforts and posting in this community rather than posting it somewhere else. Even if they are filler posts about staking every 100 POB they make or governance models or comprehensive downvote guidelines.
Thanks for clarifying though.
But we must never generalize
It is a context for reflection on the actions of a society. Only that.
I believe you don't understand the way I write so I suggest you read several other posts of mine here at POB that you will understand, I believe.
At no time was it a personal attack or for anyone, much less for you, who until today I didn't know him around here.
But they are ways of expressing what society ends up taking its course, although we all know that there will always be good people who do not fit these examples and especially with a clear conscience knowing what their real intention is. And that's up to each one to understand and feel touched ;)
Thanks
I agree and Already told you how your context is inclined towards favoring interests of a particular group and neglecting other's by cherry picking instances.
I have read your other other posts, and I didn't find any conclusions derived based on similar fallacies.
Not an attack, I agree, it's just a judgement. Not personal? I doubt - I don't see many people posting governance models or voting guidelines.
I tried to reveal some logical discrepancies with this particular post. If you still feel there is nothing wrong with how you have portrayed things. And everything is cool. There is no point to this conversation. I would encourage you to write more such posts that can get trending. I am not some pricking moral policer anyway. Each to their own.
Thanks for showing maturity and patience in your responses.
Good Luck
Really ! If the proposals are going to divide the community, we need to rather think if we really want such proposals. There would be many other small players who are doing great but would be afraid of taking sides.
Who doesn't want his/her place in the sun🤷 mostly when there is lot of benefits attached to it.
It's a good thing the price hike in pob remains intact despite the current proposal on downvoting which could have discouraged a lot.
I love this part "Why do we waste time discussing bad things when we could discuss good things?"
I absolutely agree with you, there's no point in dwelling on bad, but rather we should all focus on individual engagement and content curation.
What makes a community increase is unity and not conflicts. Let's all try to enjoy our togetherness🥰
Thanks!
You were one of the few people who really got the real message