Where is the #POB Community Headed ?
Last week registered another low in the engagement levels in #pob. This is a result of two important events on #pob.
- The engagement project run by @amr008 has come to an end
- The engagement on #pobtalk started by @vempromundo.pob has halved down.
These are two very important projects on this platform in terms of the engagement. These projects helped many users to gain some decent rewards.
Highlights of the week
- 2251 (Last week 2159) subscribers to the community - This was the strongest parameter with the growth of 16.67%.
- 723 (Last week 736) active users are actively posting on POB. During the last week number of active users reduced by 12.26%
- There are about 6016 (Last week 5837) investors who are/were holding POB tokens. 11% growth of investors. Investors have seen a continuous growth since April, when I started compiling these reports.
The most important highlight of the week is the cross section of the investors vs. interactions trends. Interactions have been continuously falling down whereas investors are continuously increasing. Growing number of investors against the interactions also indicate that the stakeholders of the community are now not interested in the engagement but prefer to be in the curators role.
Declining Engagement
Engagement clearly indicates a declining trend since last couple of weeks and with just 5565 engagements for the week, it has already cloaked the decline of close to 27% on weekly basis. However, when combined with the declining number of the active users the per user engagement has reduced to only 7 comments per user. This ratio is one of the lowest in the #pob history.
Impact of #pobtalk
The engagement on #pobtalk forum has started seeing the decline and the average comments per day are registering new low. On 21st September it registered only 21 comments against its all time high of 354 on 19th August. In just 33 days it reached from all time high to all time low.
Overall the community activities are lackluster.
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I would also like to know what happened?
I have some hunches: lack of innovation, pob is the same since it launched, there is nothing new and I doubt there will be
insecurity: all past troubles were not resolved, they were thrown under the rug, as if they had never happened
Ignore reality: the problems were highlighted for months, and instead of the administration solving it, they chose to ignore it, but you can't ignore the reality, eventually the bill arrives, and it arrived
I got tired of trying to argue, explain and create thousands of posts about it, because I saw it was a wasted effort, so I kind of gave up trying to fight it all 'alone' (because @onealfa also made a point of explaining a lot of things wrong)
I even believe I can generate a post about it, I'll start writing, thank you
I can respond in terms of my activities on POB.
My plan was to see the new pob front end completed by now and then launch proposals on use cases, but changes I'd like to see done are not yet completed. As a result, I started exploring other options offered by the Hive Engine group for discussion/proposals to POB. POB is also researching this area. The HE group is offering some good features for frontend development web 3.0.
My focus in POB was on trying to standardize behaviors with engagement, article quality, and curation. Cal had curators, but due to a personal emergency he hasn't been here for a while and I started going into that area this week. Also, I'm managing his WOTW contest so that's taking some time. I feel I need to work on the curation part before moving forward with everything else as I don't want authors to feel left behind.
I can't speak on insecurity and ignoring reality at this time and I apologize for that, @Vempromundo. All I can ask is to keep speaking out and if I can explain it or refer to POB for a response then I will.
To be frank, the motivation to engage is hanging on the thread for some people because of numerous reasons.
Educational pursuit is one of them.
I have to admit that POB is one of the favorite tribes of our @Liotes project and because of that we are trying to help with these @Ourpick suggestion posts where we link 1 great post from a couple of tribes in it...
On the other side, it is obvious that HYPE about the tribe can't last forever, so we are in the "calm period" at the moment, but that's not that bad... It has to happen sooner or later to any tribe/project...
Regarding content creation, I think the problem isn't only POB, but HIVE in general... People are FUDing and not creating at all, because of this China news, BTC dump, etc...
I have picked this post on behalf of the @OurPick project and it will be highlighted in the next post!
If it is the hive-wide problem, then I am sure that it would get resolved very soon. May be as we approach the year-end more activity will be visible again on hive platform. Lets hope for the best.
It's certainly not looking good. As others have said there's not really a lot of direction to inspire anyone. 😢
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Well we can see the numbers dropping every week, but I will say we should not be discourage. Although this have affects alot of thing.
But we should not give up, you know the road is very rough, with time every thing will go well.
I don't really agree with you that the 'Declining Engagement' is a bad thing. I've also seen the number of comments on POBTALK decrease significantly, but when I check some of the older ones it's full of "Hello", "Good morning" and "Thank you" comments. #POBTALK is often just a slow chat.
For me engagement is not creating a lot of comments, it is about creating quality comments. When I post photographs I rather have one comment with constructive feedback than 10 "Wow!" comments.
And I have another figure that does show growth of the community; the number of posts.
When I check the number of posts from my stats of the last week that is between 115 - 148 blogposts a day and a total of 913 in a week.
Compared to a week in mid July that was 88 - 105 with a total of 703.
That's an increase of 210 posts per week; 30 posts a day in just two months.
But also with this figure; the quality of the posts matter more than the quantity.
If we want more interactions we need reward constructive comments (I've mentioned that before) and we need to create content to interact with.
One of the great examples is the #pobStreet initiative from @insight.pob and @onealfa where people have to comment on a question. Just check the number and size of the comments there.
I recently starten the #pobphotocontest which is also getting a lot of attention. The first round had 10 contestants, the second one 17 and the 3rd round already has 27 submissions.
I really don't think it's going that bad. Numbers don't tell everything 😊
totally agree, the quality has dropped a lot
You are absolutely correct. I would have more faith in statistics discussing engagement if there was a definition of engagement when reporting the numbers. I won't deny the influence of POBTalk at all. Vempromundo does his job well there. They have engagement. It just isn't all quality engagement, but this is certainly true of every article out there.
@insight.pob's initiative is another example. I'm more inclined to participate in lengthy conversations there than POBTalk. The topics are just more interesting to me personally. Like POBTalk, I've seen great conversations there, but I've also seen engagement that wasn't quality. It happens. People have lives outside of Hive.
What's the definition of quality engagement?
We can keep it simple. Let's say that quality engagement means full sentence discussions between two or more people focused upon the topic at hand. Unfortunately, you can't write a simple query for quality engagement. This article should be reflective of that fact.
You are absolutely correct. I would have more faith in statistics discussing engagement if there was a definition of engagement when reporting the numbers. I won't deny the influence of POBTalk at all. Vempromundo does his job well there. They have engagement. It just isn't all quality engagement, but this is certainly true of every article out there.
@insight.pob's initiative is another example. I'm more inclined to participate in lengthy conversations there than POBTalk. The topics are just more interesting to me personally. Like POBTalk, I've seen great conversations there, but I've also seen engagement that wasn't quality. It happens. People have lives outside of Hive.
What's the definition of quality engagement?
We can keep it simple. Let's say that quality engagement means full sentence discussions between two or more people focused upon the topic at hand. Unfortunately, you can't write a simple query for quality engagement. This article should be reflective of that fact.
Also, a lack of a definition makes numbers misleading. After all, posting an article is a form of engagement with the community as a whole and that comes with its own host of statistics.
What's the definition of a comment?
If I write one word in a post, does it count as a comment? If so, can we actually include it as a measure of community activity? What about automated commenting?
Doom and gloom…. Doom and Gloom…. doom and gloom
There is reduce in engagement but increase in stakers
That's bad for pob community as a social media and good for pob community as a cryptocurrency
Thank you for your article again and the discussion. Can you provide more detail on how you define engagement and comment? Are there any other groups other than POBTalk that you've evaluated in terms of engagement?
Since April 2021, I have been tracking the five parameters of the community every week. This weekly stats were recorded in a database. When #pobtalk was started I received request from @vempromundo to track the status and I was doing the same. I have not tried tracking any other initiatives on my own. However, if some one requests to do so . I would be glad to add that statistics to my weekly reports.
Yeah that's not a bad idea. I'll get back to you on that offer.
I think lack of engagement comes with lack of content. Don't get me wrong, they're a lot of posts here on a daily basis but the question is, are they good enough to get me to engage in them??
Over the past few weeks I've noticed that most authors in the POB are so much concerned with quantity and not quality. They post a lot of unnecessary things and repeat posts. Some just rephrase someone else's post and drop it like that. I believe very much in quality and it's hard for me to drop a comment on a post that isn't good enough at all.
I just hope with time things change around here
Damn, This doesn't sound good at all. Nice effort to calculate and update statistics.
I'm proud of you, Man.
I am very active on #cine and I would have been rather very happy to see such statistical reports on the #cine community which is currently considered as the dark horse. I am of the opinion that it has one of the great curation APR and better tokenomics.