LBI on LISTNERDS? | Should we join marketing?

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Hello, LBIers. Great news I remembered it was Monday and it was my day to post, I even planned what I was going to write about yesterday so today we are going to look into something that increases the reach of our content and maybe even makes us some extra income as well.

Around a month back I created an account on LISTENERDS for SPI and so far the results have been ok. Ok enough that I think LBI could maybe open an account and promote its content and maybe even earn some LISTNERD tokens as well. The problem is im already running an account for SPI and we would need someone to run the account for LBI. We could work out some profit share based on money taken out but that's to be decided. This post is just getting the idea out there and getting a feel for if anyone would be interested.

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I'll very briefly explain what LISTNERDS is first

In the simplest terms, LISTNERDS is a promotional email service.

Read mail -
You can read, verify and upvote/down mails. Each time to view an email, you earn some MAIL credits.

Send mail -
You can also send out mails. Each mail credit you have is worth 1 person so if you have 1000 MAIL credits, your email will be sent to 1000 people. Emails can be anything, promotions, LEOfinance content, referral links, etc and if your email is viewed and upvoted enough to get verified you will earn some LISTNERDS.

The is staking as well for CTP and LITNERD tokens

All mail is within the listnerds website, your personal email is not gonna start getting spammed with 2000 emails every day, lol

Subscription model

Of course, there is a subscription model and each level has its own benefits. They go from free to $97 every 30 days.

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I have using the Enterprise level for SPI but im not sure if LBI has these sort of liquid funds each month to piss into the wind as it could potentially be 3-4 months before we start to receive payouts from this as they have a 10-week power-down plus it'll take a few months to earn enough to make a power-down worthwhile so 6 month tester is more likely to be closer.

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Going free is an option but I think it's the worst and for LBI, it would have to be Premium or Business because Enterprise is too expensive. I think Business is based on getting daily emails and 3000 bonus people per email. Referral level and mail discount mean nothing. The solo mail would be nice but not worth the extra $20. At business, you can auto send, you get 20-30 Mail credits per mail you read and everything else is pretty much the same as Enterprise.

I guess it really falls on whoever is gonna step up and do this for LBI. If they can do it daily, cool, if not then maybe Premium is better but less worth our while.

Here's an example I have from SPI's earnings to give you an idea of what can be made. The number in the red circle is your mail score, if this is over 20, you will get verified and earn a reward. The circled one will pay out tomorrow as it runs 1 week behind, same as HIVE content. I should also note that these payouts are small due to a problem they have been having where no rewards were distributed for 4 days. Earnings per verified mail is normally north of 150 tokens.

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You can see the middle 2 emails never paid out as it's got lots of downvotes. There are downvoting groups that target people that have higher membership levels. I consider it just part of the cost of using LISTNERDS. From a sample of 6, 4 will payout and as i said above the payout will normally be north of 150 listnerds per verified mail.

Each LISTNERD token is worth 1.30 HIVE so...
150 x 1.3 = 195 HIVE worth per verified mail

Now you interested? right?

Yeah, nothing wrong with getting 1 email verified per day and earning 195 HIVE's (1300 LEO) worth of LISTNERD tokens. That would be 9,100 LEO per week, that's insane when you think about it. Sadly we'll never see it because there's not any use case for LISTNERDs and I'd expect the price to fall over time. It's a downer but this is the path of 98% of HE tokens and we need to factor in that risk considering there's a long 10-week unstaking period.

So there's the thought. Would do you think?

At the end of the day, it's a calculated risk we would be taking here. Currently, the price of LISTNERDS is 1.30 HIVE but what will it be in 4-6 months' time from now? Will be enough to cover the cost of the subscription and leave some over for dividends and to make it worth the operator's time. We could pay out a subscription fee for 6 months and maybe only recoup 50% of what the cost was or it could stay strong and we make a killing.

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I think we have been getting wrecked, the LBI fund is at an all-time low in terms of dollars and we are in a bear market. It's time to roll up the shelves and get back to the grind. Passive incomes for only for rich people during a bear market, we pleps need to stop living the dream and get back to work so maybe next market cycle, we can be the rich people.

Thanks for checking out the post, drop your feedback below. It might take me a day are 2 but I try my best to reply back to all comments.

Have a great day!

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Visit LISTNERDS website and sign up using your HIVE account

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I also think if any big holder of LN sells that might impact LISTNERDS heavily

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100%, its already down to under 1 HIVE.

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I don't want it to but I think it might end up like other coin on Hive Engine. Maybe some new usecase could help it remain stable

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If you are unsure, just start to build it up with free sub, 1 mail weekly is not much work. Later you can see if its worth it. Also, the price of LN is quite skewed, because there are not many people selling yet, it could go down fast.

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Sadly we'll never see it because there's not any use case for LISTNERDs and I'd expect the price to fall over time.

Totally agree. I run an account for SPI so i already see what it can earn

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Each LISTNERD token is worth 1.30 HIVE so...

Those prices certainly aren't there anymore...

Can you explain to me what reason people would have to buy these tokens that we'd plan to continuously dump?

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Yeah I don't know that they could even be dumped in that kind of volume. The only use-case is staking to earn more LISTNERDS, right?

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I'm just struggling to see a use-case for the token.

It's not like a Hive community token that gives you influence over how your content is displayed on a front-end.

With List Nerds you just pay the subscription and get access to those 3000 people a day anyway (or however many your chosen tier offers).

The LISTNERDS tokens don't actually influence how many people you are putting your offer in front of and thus I don't see a reason for people to buy those you eventually want to sell.

Just being able to earn more of the same token by staking isn't enough to stop a token from going to zero.

The supply/demand imbalance is just too much.


Value in the List Nerds platform comes from being able to put your offer in front of a large number of people.

You can make money from people buying your product - Not from earning the tokens.

But when it comes to our content... LBI doesn't have an offer.

We're just providing educational content for free.

Without an offer, I just can't see a reason to put the fund's money into a List Nerds subscription.

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Yeah I don't see any reason to spend the funds on a subscription. Until the tokens have an actual use, they're just going to lose value.

LBI doesn't need to spend money monthly on tokens that will only depreciate in value over time.

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Lots of tokens have no use case, we'd be planning to sell them over time so I guess we would get LEO for them and that would be its use case for us.

CUB is an example of a token with no use case other than to stake it to earn more CUB.

As for going have the free account, i think it would be a waste of time and too slow. These things dont last forever.

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I also think the prices won't really be sustainable once the selling kicks in but I don't think it's a bad thing to have. I think the extra outreach for promoting the project and engagement itself is quite nice.

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