RE: The Hive Engagement League πŸ†

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So since I'm the said individual and being misrepresented, I should probably chime in to clarify and debunk the misinformation.

First of all, Ganjafarmer is also spamming. He was just using a script to copy paste this message underneath all of gangstalking's comments. https://ecency.com/spam/@ganjafarmer/official-community-war-squib-aka-gangstalking-spam-war#@ganjafarmer/re-ganjafarmer-qz71pi

You can read what I wrote if you want to actually see what I wrote instead of taking him at his word.
https://ecency.com/spam/@ganjafarmer/official-community-war-squib-aka-gangstalking-spam-war#@rawbe/re-ganjafarmer-202199t10238973z

I called him out for talking to squib in an irresponsible manner, he even took screenshots of what he wrote to validate himself. He said 'No more spam or we'll increase the terrorism in your brain.' If you haven't seen the post in the hidden comments gangstalking links to, it references this voice to skull conspiracy where this person thinks they are being attacked by people on Hive. The way gangstalking approached the conversation validates and spurs on the conspiracy and is stupid as fuck.

Second, the problems I pointed out actually happened. I didn't follow the incident close enough to evaluate every single comment chain since that's a waste of my time but I have two cases that happened to people I was following which is where I became aware of this.
First was @darkflame 's post
https://ecency.com/proofofbrain/@darkflame/thinking-about-privacy#@doziekash/qz5ahx

The person was confused about what to downvote and could have downvoted darkflame's post. Most people don't even see gangstalking's comments, since they're hidden and this anecdote reinforces that. Sure awareness maybe moved people in the 'right' direction but to many people this was nonissue in the first place.

Second is @nutritree 's post
https://ecency.com/hive-136819/@nutritree/r-wallstreetsilver#@nutritree/re-ganjafarmer-202199t84016965z
Nutritree states 'The hidden protocol seems to be doing just fine to mitigate effects. Thanks for the double comment. There will always be bad actors wether freedom exists or not. I would have it no other way'. I'm autistic and even I can read the sarcasm when Nutritree said 'thanks' to the duplicated spam. And if that's not enough indignation, Nutritree actually reblogged the V2K post which put it in my feed.

Maybe there were more people being positive about it than negative but the two instances where this was in my feed and his general behavior on how he interacts with someone mentally ill are negative and if a person were actually trying to improve the community then some introspection would be warranted. However, ganjafarmer is just being a troll and has no interest in improving the community so that's why he's misrepresenting me in this way instead.

All in all, if you want to promote someone using a bot to spam when they troll and completely invalidate the initiative when you call that 'positive engagement' and incentivize it then this will actually encourage more people like gangstalking and ganjafarmer which is the opposite of what is being stated. If ganjafarmer wants to get rid of people who 'downvote harass bully intimidate and be such a general nuisance that the community has gotten tired of it.' That would include himself. But he wants to call other people out and not get called out. I'm not the only person calling him out on it, he's just too dumb to understand nuance.



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I have commented to inform the spammer that he is not helping his case by doing such things. Because of that I have been targeted by his little downvote bot. Not a complaint and I do not care. Not my first rodeo with powerful bots. Sorry to not fit into your mold. I tried to provide a bit of positive reinforcement by showing some support for a real technology in a sea of NIMBY. I suggested he connect with the targeted community and a radio host that has broken away from that system. Just because people do not believe something is possible does not make it so. I hope we can continue this conversation from time to time and learn something.

As for @ganjafarmer he can not stand for someone to disagree with him let alone open his mind to the possibility that he is wrong. We disagree on the non physical addictive properties of an action or inaction. I guess he has never heard of dopamine and what it does to a brain. He hammered me hard instead of just agreeing to disagree. I guess he has lived in commiefornia for too long.

Pleasure to make your acquaintance and evolve.

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Ah thanks for clarifying. To be fair, I didn't investigate this all too deeply. I was just following all three of you and responded based on what I could see when I noticed ganjafarmer's 'plan' and reacted to it. I didn't mean to assume your motives, simply stating how it is a backfire to what ganjafarmer intended when he said 'somebody was complaining that this individual suddenly got a flood of individuals going to his account however failed to mention that this flood of individuals was tired of the spam and was going over to mute this account' and wanted to explain the nuance of my example better. I could have steel manned your position better but it was already a lengthy comment so tried to simplify for brevity.

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No foul here. Everyone can not possibly be expected to cover every possible scenario or piece of info. Problem is that some do not even try.

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All in all, if you want to promote someone using a bot to spam when they troll and completely invalidate the initiative when you call that 'positive engagement' and incentivize it then this will actually encourage more people like gangstalking and ganjafarmer which is the opposite of what is being stated.

Sadly, after 4 years of doing this, I do overlook the odd account check. Normally I'll count the dup comments, and their char length and reduce accordingly, it didn't happen this time.

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I might have been a bit hyperbolic when I made my point. I didn't really mean to run down your initiative, just got annoyed when my opinions were being falsely represented so my tone was probably a lot harsher overall than was meant. Your engagement league seems interesting. Is there many hoops to jump through to get added to your master list?

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No worries :)

I have added you to my lists and suspect you could be a new entry next Monday.

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