RE: HOW TO SHUT UP! HIVE is Gaining a Bad Reputation - Official Disagreement in Hive

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Thank you for doing a decent job of weighing in on this situation. The points you have made clearly make things plain as to what is alright and what isn't alright on the Hive Blockchain.

I'm always of the mind that someone should be innocent until proven guilty however and that puts real weight on the process's we use to identify plagiarism and theft of media content.

It is my opinion that we need to put further effort, thought, and awareness into how we go about these aspects of maintaining our blockchains integrity. If we are not careful we will only create an environment where it is to unfriendly to invite our friends, family, and famous.

I am not here to judge if someone is right or wrong on either side... But I am concerned about how we are reaching our verdicts on these sorts of things.

I believe that the way we go about our determinations is just as important as our ultimate decisions are.

We should also give some thought as to how we can weigh out consequences. What I mean by this is... What exactly does it mean to be black listed? And could that not be levied out on a sliding scale of severity so as to make a point but not level the playing field we all stand upon?

Another consideration should be... How can we make use of our DPoS system to vote on the outcomes of cases of plagiarism... collectively as a community.

Rather than one entity being the police, judge, and jury I think that it might be wiser to proceed by separation of these aspects of identification and protocol.

So yes.

The good thing about all the gaps that form (like these ones) while we innovate the future of the Hive blockchain is that we all have an opportunity to step into those gaps as owners... Hive is a living project which means that we can change and adjust the things that need to improve as we identify what those values actually are.

I think that how @hivewatchers is going about it's implementation of Hive integrity and safety is commendable buuuuuut also increasingly inadequate if we are honest and want to continue to say that we are a decentralized solution to an increasingly censored world.

If you would like to read more of my thoughts about this case I left a couple comments in one of @regenerette's recent posts:
https://peakd.com/proofofbrain/@regenerette/hive-owned-by-companies-and#@regenerette/re-wilmetcalfe-2021628t213211678z

As well... Here's a link to a post I recently made in regards to having a second look at my Witness Votes and continuing to evolve Hive towards friendlier ways to human:
https://peakd.com/hive/@wil.metcalfe/taking-a-2nd-look-witness-requirements

I have liked your comment and followed you @dickturpin, as I think you have a good head on your shoulders.

Thank you for saying something constructive here in the comments.



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So I don't know the full story behind this, and I've no intention of finding out. I'm always a bit dubious about self-appointed guardianship, though so posts in this vein which sadly I see a few of always arouse my interest.

There are, in my view, some problems with the current system. From what I gather, your route of appeal is via Discord which is not my favourite medium of communication. As you point out, an aggrieved is appealing against an organisation that is Police, Judge and Jury all rolled into one which cannot possibly be good.

Having said that, I find myself wanting to have a foot in both camps. If the community is going to run around slating the likes of Twitter et al. for censoring, banning and a whole host of other activities as a reason to "Join Decentralised Hive.........." then Hive really shouldn't be doing some of the same things.

I'm afraid I don't do fluffy nice but I do try to be fair and listen to both sides of any dispute and then make my own mind up and not what others think the conclusion should be.

I've done short paragraphs because I wanted to make succinct points. Sorry. 😊

P.S. I look at your comments tomorrow. It's getting on here in the UK and I've some other stuff I need to wade through.

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Thank you for the acute and succinct response!

I find myself in both camps as well... Which shows that there is actually some middle ground that's less extreme, more friendly, and all around better in it's approach to the maintenance of our ever present security concerns on this blockchain.

There is a middle ground.

There is a friendlier way for all of us to human.

That way is to put the weight on the system rather than the human element which is fallible, often harsh, and often not quite on point in it's effectiveness.

It may even be quite dangerous. (When you consider police, judge, and jury all rolled into one... a definite red flag does pop up for me.)

But yes!

Have a look see when you have some time to do so.

I appreciate any sort of input of feedback you may have my friend.

Good luck "wading through" all those things that need to be wadded through! (I so know what you mean!)

Sincerely,

@wil.metcalfe 🙌

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