Is it ok to reward the work by upvotes ?
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I don't know if you guys know, but I was working as a curator in d.tube for about six months. We were checking videos in a special chat and using a bot to upvote the content without having the keys of the main account. They did that to make it easy for curators to upvote any content without using the main account that had about 2 million voting power. That was interesting to do. So, curators were just rewarding each other by upvotes because most of the curators were creating videos.
So, I was very passion about the platform and I noticed a lot of abuse and decided to fight it. The abuse was in form of using any videos from the web to upload on dtube and earn. So, we were reporting those videos, and they were downvoted by the main account manually by the owner. Sometimes I had even to interview people to make sure that the content is theirs. It wasn't that easy, but I was excited, and I liked to do that. Because as a non-native English speaker, that was a great practice to improve my speaking skills and to build a community at the same time. That's how I built @dcooperation.
But when I was a curator in dtube, I didn't like that much to be rewarded by upvotes. I preferred to earn liquid steem for that. I thought that will be good to not abuse the reward pool and to make curators have more time to curate instead of creating content. In fact the owner has nothing to lose when the curators get rewarded by upvotes, he didn't have to share his earnings and that was really useful for him. @reseller was a curator before me and he was the one who invited me because he saw me active in the platform. He also defended the idea of paying curators in liquid instead of upvotes. In the end that wasn't applied anyway.
I don't know if I'm right about this or not, but I still think that the hard work should be paid in liquid but not in upvotes. Firstly, it will save the time of the worker and also the reward pool will not be abused in any form. Because it may look like a project where the leaders are rewarded the most, but other members don't have that privilege. I can see that happening in some communities, and that's maybe what making some people angry. They may don't understand why we have to have a hierarchy in a decentralized platform.
As I wrote before : ''We shouldn't write only about the issue, but we should also give solutions''. So, the only solution I see here is to reward curators and those who do a great work in a particular platform, community, application, tribe ... etc. To reward such people with liquid without pushing that trending to not confuse people who join us. People will be clear that the content is mostly rewarded here and the activity and other valuable things they do for the community. I'll be even happy to see those workers getting even more in liquid instead of what they get from upvotes. Imagine someone earns that in form of upvotes and losing everything with one single downvote. The work will not be paid, and we may lose such valuable player who would do a lot of great work here.
I'm not defending the idea of rewarding the work by liquid. That's why I wrote the title in a form of question.
Oh man that sucks, no wonder why I couldn't earn anything on dTube. I left because there was no earnint. 3speak is way better!
I also like how 3speak are working now.
I like @threespeak because the interface is cleaner, also the uploader looks better, I uploaded to DTube recently and had to pin on my IPFS node because the uploader was not working and I could not figure out why.
I like that there are these two platform and hope they can learn from each other and compete o which gets better faster
I like your idea and discussion on the matter. I will ask for that approach moving forward as it will avoid drawing on the rewards pool. Steady work steady pay. Random work random pay that doesn't alter the rewards other people can get. You read my mind on this one.
Yeah, that may even avoid some conflict of interests. So noone will complain about the distribution of rewards. And how much a project pay liquid to the worker on it, it's up to the owner of the project.
You know what?.
You aren't entirely wrong about the whole reward system as per curators and any team members, working for the betterment of the platform.
Some people might not know like you said especially those newbies. I have seen cases that those who couldn't keep shut anymore about the curators getting big upvotes on their posts started ranting out in the open and expressing their bitterness. Some say those curators are over rewarded but funny enough most times, those upvotes or rewards are not even for the curators or author but since they don't know the purpose or reason as to why some posts gets such rewards, they are bound to complain and sometimes even attack.
So your suggestions about the curators reward system seems like a wise one.
The thing is that here we are all considered as curators. And we are already paid by our curation rewards and that shouldn't be liquid. By workers, I mean developers, marketers, moderators and those who organize the project. I also called curators in dtube as workers because we were there fighting the abuse, upvoting the best videos with the main account, organizing events, taking care of discord server and other worked asked by the main team. Those who were working on the project those were paid by upvotes instead of liquid.
About regular curators are already paid 50% from their curation and 50% is going to authors. Plus the regular curators here may create a good content and earn from that and even from comments as well and participating in contests and other initiative. I think regular curators here are already paid enough if they are brining value.
Yeah, I think I understood what you meant perfectly well, sorry about the mix up lol.
And of course, lastly value is always rewarded.
I feel that the votes are overestimated especially in many communities that only make content to get paid, I think the community would be much more resilient if we try not to focus too much on the rewards but that's essentially what Hive aspires to be.
Maybe you are right. But getting paid here is what deffers us from other social media. That could be a motivation for some to do something good for the community. After all, you are right, it's not the most important. I always sharing the saying from @iamjadeline who told me a long time ago : ''I joined for rewards and stayed for the community.'' I wish most of us will stay for that. For the idea and the concept !
Your point makes total sense. I don’t have a solution, but I can see the problem and I agree with your solution to reward in liquid. The platform has a too much potential for abuse and we have little time to evolve as a community, in terms of quality, until the inflation gets to the final around 1% a year Hive targets
I personally like the upvoting as I get to busy to write posts as much as I would like to at the moment and majority of my rewards come from my curation.
Yeah, upvoting is also awesome. There is so many great content created on the blockchain to consume. As a community leader @dcooperation , I understand you when you don't post that much. Besides that we have the real life tocare about ! Creating content could be very time consuming !