You can help us - Vempromundo Curatorship

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This post was updated on 01/05/2021 at 11:15 (GMT -3), if you read before that time, read again that there are news at the end of it

If you have been in POB for some time, you must have noticed me out there voting for your posts. Creator of Win a 100 POB Delegation and POB outside POB. And I hope to continue trying to always bring fairness to the community and for everyone.

According to statisticians brought by @harpreetjanda, I am the user with Highest Number of Up-Votes by users. With an expressive number of 160 during the week of 10 to 16 of April. Always trying to diversify the votes to reach a greater number of users. Currently on HiveTasks I have 261 upvotes on 101 different accounts. In other words, we can see that each week the number of votes spread increases.

However, as I currently have an efficient curation account at POB, in other communities I have no influence whatsoever, so my only way to increase my voting power is by giving PowerUp on every reward I get.

Unlike other users who can take their income and purchase POB to get more PobPower. And I hope that many more users will do that. Team PobHolders.

However, I know that in this way each day my vote will be worth a little less, until it reaches a point that there will be no voting power to continue voting with everyone with a significant vote.

So, in order for the curatorial account to remain active as it is at the moment, I ask for your help, delegating part of your PobPower to my account.

Everyone knows that my curatorship always votes with 10% of the full amount in the comments that my account receives. Currently my vote is worth 31 POB, that is, a comment generates a vote of 3.1 POB.

I currently follow with the curatorship account 73 users, who were due to the message that is at the end of every post of mine, asking people to leave a comment and in this way I will follow them to make the curation process easier.

I believe that if you are a user who likes my curatorship, delegate some value so that we can keep it up and running, and always leave a comment in the publications so that you receive the 10% vote, that if several help with delegations, by the that vote's value may increase.

Especially small accounts, it is more profitable to delegate me, 100, 200, even 500 POB and comment on my posts, which will be with me curating the community and at the same time receiving a reward. Win and win.

I am trying my best, I would like your help. The curatorship helped me the most in the beginning, and I think you can help me again now.

I hope to be able to be more often in the first place in the number of different users voted, so that the curatorship can reach everyone who is actually doing a proof of brain.

And whoever can't, at least leave a comment that this is very important to me, I enjoy interacting with you too.

UPDATE: a curation trail will be created, and you can help by being part of it

I would like to thank @calumam, @juanmiguelsalas and @allcapsonezero for their comments and for future help in creating the trail.

As soon as it is available I will probably make a post or a new edit on this one.

Se você está há algum tempo no POB, já deve ter me notado por ai votando em suas postagens. Criador do Win a 100 POB Delegation e do POB outside POB. E eu espero continuar tentando trazer sempre para a comunidade uma curadoria justa e para todos.

Segundo estatístas trazido por @harpreetjanda, eu sou o usuário com Highest Number of Up-Votes by users. Com um número expressivos de 160 durante a semana de 10 a 16 de Abril. Tentando sempre diversificar cada vez os votos para atingir um maior número de usuários. Atualmente no HiveTasks possuo 261 upvotes em 101 contas diferentes. Ou seja, podemos notar que cada semana a quantidade de votos espalhados aumenta.

Porém, estando atualmente com uma conta de curadoria eficiente no POB, nas outras comunidades não tenho influência alguma, assim minha única forma de aumentar meu poder de voto é dando PowerUp em toda recompensa que eu conseguir.

Diferente de outros usuários que podem pegar seu rendimento e adquirir POB para ter mais PobPower. E eu espero que muito mais usuários façam isso. Team PobHolders.

No entanto, eu sei que dessa maneira cada dia o meu voto irá valer um pouco menos, até chegar a certo ponto que irá faltar poder de voto para continuar votando todos com um voto de valor significativo.

Dessa maneira, para que a conta de curadoria continue atuante como está no momento, eu peço sua ajuda, delegando parte do seu PobPower para a minha conta.

Todos sabem que a minha curadoria sempre vota com 10% do valor cheio nos comentários que minha conta recebe. Atualmente meu voto vale 31 POB, ou seja, um comentário gera um voto de 3,1 POB.

Eu sigo atualmente com a conta da curadoria 73 usuários, que foram devido ao recado que fica no final de toda postagem minha, pedindo para as pessoas deixarem um comentário e dessa maneira irei segui-las para ficar mais fácil o processo de curadoria.

Creio que se você é um usuário que gosta da minha curadoria, delegue algum valor para que possamos continuar com ela em funcionamento, e deixe sempre um comentário nas publicações para que receba o voto de 10%, que se vários ajudarem com delegações, até o valor desse voto pode aumentar.

Principalmente contas pequenas, é mais lucrativo me delegar, 100, 200, até mesmo 500 POB e comentar minhas postagens, que estará junto comigo realizando uma curadoria para a comunidade e ao mesmo tempo recebendo uma recompensa. Ganha e ganha.

Eu estou tentando meu máximo, gostaria da ajuda de vocês. A curadoria foi quem mais me ajudou no começo, e creio que vocês novamente podem me ajudar agora.

Espero poder ficar mais vezes em primeiro lugar na quantidade de usuários diferentes votados, para que a curadoria possa chegar em todos que de fato estão fazendo uma proof of brain.

E quem não puder, ao menos deixe um comentário que isso é muito importante pra mim, eu curto demais interagir com vocês.

UPDATE: uma trilha de curadoria será criada, e você pode ajudar fazendo parte dela

Gostaria de agradecer calumam, juanmiguelsalas e allcapsonezero pelos comentários e por uma futura ajuda na criação da trail.

Assim que ela estiver disponível provável eu faça uma postagem ou um novo edit nessa aqui.


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No momento sou um krill, mas assim que tiver um power legal, delegarei sem problemas, tenho curtido o trabalho que você tem feito por aqui, força aí nessa caminhada!!!


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It is obvious you mean well for this platform..you really want this platform to grow....I am excited about that...


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So to I'm also trying to stack my reward as much as I can

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I am one of the early adapters of this platform, i have been one of the beneficiaries of your votes. You have been excellent support for this platform. I am certainly in for the delegation if my comments get upvotes.


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I wish i get to know the proof of 🧠 brain sooner so I might be the one of the early adopters too

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So, that's why we need to support this ideia.

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Bro I will definitely delegate some pob power to you once I have a time to open computer and do other things I will surely delegated to you and keep up the good work bro 😉

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you may not decrease, if you keep being active, even if you do not buy any POB. Keep working hard and you will see.


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I was considering making a post about this but I don't think I'll have the time to get round to it in the next couple of days.

There are a few concerning points made within this which I think need some thinking on your part. I believe you want the best for the platform but there are some substantial downsides to what you are requesting.

Especially small accounts, it is more profitable to delegate me, 100, 200, even 500 POB and comment on my posts, which will be with me curating the community and at the same time receiving a reward. Win and win.

Technically not much of a win for the smaller account since they won't be receiving the consistent curation rewards which they'd receive from holding their own POB staked. It's not possible for you to guarantee the same voting rewards from your curation account voting on them.

I see this as yourself receiving delegations and building your stake while those who are delegating are sacrificing their own growth in the hopes that you'll live up to a promise of providing the rewards they are missing out on. Something which I don't think is possible with the method you've proposed..

I believe that if you are a user who likes my curatorship, delegate some value so that we can keep it up and running, and always leave a comment in the publications so that you receive the 10% vote, that if several help with delegations, by the that vote's value may increase.

Does this mean that any comment no matter the quality will receive a 10% upvote from your account? Will you be obligated to give a vote to any comments or posts by delegatees because you feel indebted to them? This is a slippery slope.

So, in order for the curatorial account to remain active as it is at the moment, I ask for your help, delegating part of your PobPower to my account.

We're at a similar voting power level at this current time and I receive around 100-150 POB daily just from curation rewards. On top of this, I have an autovote from @richardcrill which is around 60-70 POB (30-35 author reward), you also have an autovote on your posts too. We also have a significant influence on the platform which adds to the eyes on our posts and efforts (further increased since the autovote rockets posts to trending, hot, etc).

Why would we of all people need further delegations and support when we already have a solid stake and support? I believe that receiving delegations from people with a smaller stake only hinders their opportunity to grow their own stake. Being concerned about your voting weight dropping is short-sighted.

Be careful with how you utilise the influence you have on the platform (it's evident in the comments of the post that people will blindly follow without thinking too hard).


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It's not possible for you to guarantee the same voting rewards from your curation account voting on them.

certainly not, so I mentioned that the delegation would be important for those who also think about the growth of the community, in fact for someone small 100 POB can make a difference, I didn’t want to give the impression that no, so I mentioned that if the person agrees with the idea of spreading the curatorship in the community, her help would be welcome, in fact it would cease to gain value if it were in stake, but on the other hand I would be helping the community since I am always looking for small accounts and beginners to give a help , it’s not a perfect system, it’s just something

Does this mean that any comment no matter the quality will receive a 10% upvote from your account?

One person who is always making great comments in the community, not only in my posts, but in others as well, is @coffeelovers, which has even made me vote on his comment even on other people's posts, I think that is the important thing for curatorship, try to reach beyond my radar

Be careful with how you utilise the influence you have on the platform (it's evident in the comments of the post that people will blindly follow without thinking too hard).

I didn't want to harm anyone, I always take care and take into account all comments, including yours at that moment, I'm here to learn more every day, and much of what you said I will take into consideration. I don't want people to follow me blindly, and I understand your point in doing so in search of reward, and that's not the way. I will rethink some points and I hope that I have managed to express my vision in the answers

As always, thanks for the comment, when I say that your opinion is important to me, it is in examples like this, where you yourself disagreed did not attack me, but brought points for me to reflect on, and I am very happy for this approach, thanks


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Always a pleasure to get your responses from criticism, you always take it on the chin and don't take things personally.

I didn't want to harm anyone, I always take care and take into account all comments, including yours at that moment,

I didn't mean for it to come across that way, just that sometimes there are knock-on effects which has its first step from someones influence. I think you're doing a great job and it looks like the comments have led you to the curation trail route which is nice to see.


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I read this thread. There are some logical points and options too. But i would like to present you my case. If i delegate say 100 POB power to you and i get even a vote of 3 pob per comment it will take 34 comments for reaching breakeven. Which means 15 days. Post that whatever votes i get is all my benefit. So i feel this proposal would be a big break-through for someone who is active on the platform but have a small pob power. They can grow their account faster.
I however see the lines mentioning the proposal to be deleted. So now there is a dilemma.
Whether this proposal is still on or is called off now.
May be you can ask the community to vote on your proposal. Add yes and no in the comments section. let everyone vote on either Yes or No. We then calculate the total of voting power who say yes and who say no, and then decide about dropping it, as this is going to be a huge benefit for small accounts.


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This is true, yes. Although I think the part that is being missed out is the line I mentioned about being indebted to people who delegate.

If you are receiving that upvote anyway, the delegation shouldn't matter, but if people start delegating and vempromundo is indebted to people who he needs to upvote, then that causes issues.

Like I said, it's a slippery slope.


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I do agree that its a slippery slope. But considering the perspective of the small account holders, this could have been another opportunity.
May be there can be some caveats or rules for these kind of delegations.
Such as @vempromundo would give votes only once in a day or may be for the delegation of 100 POB you receive 100 votes.

By adding such caveats can help the small accounts grow with limited indebtedness. But the positive side of such activity could be that it would increase the engagement on platform looking at the APR.

I guess we all have seen the success of engagement project of @amr008, which offers close to 500% APR on the delegations.


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I don't think it's completely off the table in terms of the platform, there are still opportunities there for people to do a similar thing, I just think (and this is only my opinion) that the method needs to be ironed out.

The reason why amr008's method works is because he is rewarding the engagement of people in a decentralized manner using tools to determine this on a larger scope. He also rewards the delegatees with the dividends of the voting efforts and not with direct votes.

I did mention in my comment that I don't think it's been thought through properly before it was shared and requested, so that's why I raised the points.


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I believe that there is no harm in growing as a big whale on any platform. If you are proposing the delegation against the votes, i believe that there would be many small account holders who would be keen to make their money through the big sized votes. I would certainly like to keep it open for the voting as proposed by @coffeelovers as there would be a section of the contributors who would want to make it big here.


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I see this as yourself receiving delegations and building your stake while those who are delegating are sacrificing their own growth in the hopes that you'll live up to a promise of providing the rewards they are missing out on. Something which I don't think is possible with the method you've proposed.

Does this mean that any comment no matter the quality will receive a 10% upvote from your account? Will you be obligated to give a vote to any comments or posts by delegatees because you feel indebted to them? This is a slippery slope.

Be careful with how you utilise the influence you have on the platform (it's evident in the comments of the post that people will blindly follow without thinking too hard).

You said it better than i could have.

I have the opinion that @vempromundo has done a super good job in and for the community but this post is a bit strange. Especially for the points you mention.

As an alternative, you could offer to be followed in the vote, something like a curation trial. Your power would decrease but not the rewards given to the posts as many accounts would follow you voting behind. And if you are as good at curating as @vempromundo is, everyone would win, who makes an effort writing the post and those who follow the vote.

And just to clarify one technical thing to @vempromundo, as there are more users in the community and more people voting, no matter how much stake you have, each time you will give less. It is normal because there is an immutable amount of tokens that are given every day so, the more people there are to distribute the cake, the less cake will be distributed per head.


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As an alternative, you could offer to be followed in the vote, something like a curation trial.

A great idea, how can I create a curation trail?

It motivates me a lot to see other solutions that I had not seen. If you can help me, or else I can see Amr on the discord.


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Take a look here https://hive.vote/

Is a tool for create or follow curation trials. Also you can do some other things too. Because you didn't mention it in your post, I figured you didn't know about that tool, so I dropped the idea. And I did not want my comment to be taken in a negative way, so whenever it is a criticism to something I try to show a possible alternative if there is one. In this case I think this is a very good one.


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All comments I try to see with good eyes, and you can be sure that yours was very positive, and will help me a lot, I will read the faq now


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i think i managed to create

what link for me to disclose?


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I think you should leave people the hive.vote web address(same I gave to you) and tell them to find you and follow you in the curation trial section by your HIVE username. I think it is a good opportunity to even do a semi tutorial on the tool for new users. More material for new posts I would say ;)


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My up-vote used to be 77 POB and now it is only 40 POB. I can't say that without looking like self-sympathy but yes that is what is going on. So let me just add: "poor me. boo hoo". ;)


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I think you should look into starting a curation trail. This way, people with POB power can add their own power to a proven curator who does great work. I greatly appreciate the work that you do and can plainly see the benefit that you bring to the community, but I also greatly appreciate my POB power growing my own stake.

If you start a trail, your vote will be supported by everyone who is following your trail. My vote would stack on top of your vote, and everyone else who followed as well.

I would benefit by lending my power to your curation project by getting curation rewards from someone who has much more time to curate and find the good posts. The platform would benefit from a solid curation project with a solid curator operating it.

By reading @calumam 's comment, I think he has the same issue that I have, but would like to support your efforts (as they are great). I think a curation trail is the way to get more support and grow your upvote a ton.

If you don't know how to get this going, comment below and I will get you everything you need to know. If you start a trail, please post about it and I will reblog and add more voting power to your cause.


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If you start a trail, your vote will be supported by everyone who is following your trail. My vote would stack on top of your vote, and everyone else who followed as well.

I'm going to adopt this idea of you and @juanmiguelsalas, I don't know how to create a track, but I'll learn and put it into practice today

If you don't know how to get this going, comment below and I will get you everything you need to know. If you start a trail, please post about it and I will reblog and add more voting power to your cause.

Yes i need help


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Go to hive.vote

Login

Select "curation trail"

Then you should be able to create your trail.

Once it is created... all you need to do is tell us what your trail is called and why we should follow it. (The why is that you work very hard at curating Proof of Brain posts and following your trail will both benefit the platform and allow followers to grow their stake.)


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Trails use to be effective. I guess we can create a good one.

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Segue nesse caminho que o trabalho está sendo ótimo!

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I wonder whether you voting up so many posts increase your percentage yield with curation significantly. Like does voting up a comment that nobody else votes up add something? Is it a more rational strategy to up-vote everything than to only up-vote what's good? I don't think we should up-vote everything if there is junk. I ought not be a rational strategy to do this.

If a user wants to use someone else's judgement, this user should observe what he votes for and decide whether you concur with that voting pattern. If not look for others in the posts you voted up. Those that appear often in such posts and see which ones don't show up in posts you decide to leave without a vote.


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Like does voting up a comment that nobody else votes up add something?

I only vote on comments that generate some engagement, and not comments that do not add anything like a "beautiful post" "very good bro" and things like that


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Been attempting to try and spend more time on the POB platform myself but it's inefficient in terms of my upvote gives a lot more than just POB rewards. I'm currently working on how to best resolve that at the moment but right now I'm putting in at least a hour to find worthy content that might be undervalued or someone really trying and more importantly someone INVESTING into the POB or even hive itself. To me the show of INVESTMENT greatly outweighs writing the most beautiful and best article ever. It shows a vested stake and claiming ownership on the platform.


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This is an important point. The people that write beautiful pieces bring value and are rewarded for their time investment. It i s never the same as the person who spends years working at building value while at the same time believing in the ecosystem and investing money into it.


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Me mantenha informado amigo! Inclusive, temos que fazer um telegram ou um whats do Hive Brasil! Estou ainda focado em fazer meu crescimento também em Pob Power, mas pode contar comigo sempre para votar em seus posts, participar ativamente dos papos e também reblogar seu conteudo! Tamo junto!


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Acho que a maioria senão todos, estão no telegram do brazilians, tem uns 30 membros lá, mas da pra gente criar um do hive sim, tem a lista la no Leo de alguns nomes, e da pra gente procurar outros mais


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