Leofinance Is About To Break The 7-Day Reward Cycle!

in LeoFinance8 months ago

If you have watched the most recent LEO Roundtable, you might have already caught the news, although it was only mentioned in a brief explanation: Leofinance is going to get rid of the 7-Day Reward Cycle imposed on us by Hive! In this article, I'm going to talk you through how the reward cycle is working right now, what issues that implementation has and why I think it's high time to fix it, and finally detail how the guys are planning to implement the new system.


Currently, the reward cycle works as follows: You have a 7 day window to vote on any content released on Leofinance. Once that time is up, the author and curation rewards are distributed and voting is closed on the article. Afterwards, you can obviously still access the article, but you can no longer cast your vote on it. This is mostly a legacy from the way Hive operates.

Because Hive doesn't have a linear curation curve, it's important to have a fixed ending time for voting. The rewards payed out are greatly influenced by the time you did cast your vote. The more votes came after your vote, the bigger your share of the rewards will be. Thankfully, this system is no longer used on Leofinance. Here, you always get the same share of the rewards, no matter if you were the first or the last to vote on an article. Because of that, having a certain payout time would not really be necessary for Leofinance, but since it's hard coded for Hive, it has not been changed for Leofinance, so far.

The way payouts are handled has a very distinct negative impact for authors - you can't receive any more rewards for your work after the 7 days have passed. For a lot of articles, this won't really be an issue, many articles don't receive any more votes after the first 1-2 days anyway. But that's not true for all articles. Some of my older articles on Publish0x still fetch some views every day even though they were released half a year ago. Just do a Google Search for Emergents CCG as an example.

One of the major goals for Leofinance right now is growth. One way to achieve growth is through SEO (you can learn a lot more on that in the Roundtable) and that's where the current reward cycle really becomes problematic. If we want to incentivise our authors to optimize their articles so they rank higher in Google, we'll have to make sure to reward them accordingly, no matter if it's the day the article is released or 6 months later.

This might very well totally change the way some authors look at Leofinance. Instead of doing articles that are highly relevant for a short time it would now be an awesome idea to have some core articles that you iterate on. You could have a core article that explains the basics of blockchain technology and every new article you do on that topic always references the old article. This way, we'd both see more articles with a greater scope on the platform and at the same time give our authors another avenue for long term passive earning from their work. Personally, I think that's a great idea and luckily, the guys from @leofinance seem to agree.

Since the reward cycle is hard coded for Hive, there sadly is no easy way around it, but there's already a clever solution to that. Keep in mind that this has only been explained in short in the aforementioned video, so the implementation may yet be changed nor not implemented at all. It goes like that:

After 7 days, the usual payout occurs as always, everybody receives their rewards and the reward cycle is closed. You can still vote on the article like you were used to, though. When you do, Leofinance will create a new comment on the article, set the beneficiary to the author of the article, and vote the article with your selected voting power. Ideally, the comment wouldn't even be shown so we don't see dozens or even hundreds of empty comments on top articles, but I'm sure they already thought of that as well.

I think this implementation is pretty clever and easy to use. To a curator, it would simply look as if he had voted on the article, so you simply wouldn't have to worry about the 7 day curation cycle any longer. This will obviously only work for the LEO payouts, though. Ff you vote with Hive powered up as well, you'd just waste your vote here. So that's one more reason to set up a dedicated Leofinance account in case you have not done so yet.


All in all, I'm really impressed with what the Leofinance team is accomplishing here. All the little things I did not like about Hive are getting eliminated one by one and we are heading towards a bright future here. In a mere 3 months, Leofinance has changed from a tag we add to gain some additional rewards to the front page of the (blockchain-)internet for many of us!

That's all from me today, thank you all for reading and see you next time!

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That would be really awesome, and hopefully Hive could adopt it then. Like I still didn´t gave up my hope they change the reward curve back to non-linear, following the success of Leofinance.

Ultimately, I believe the success of Leofinance is going to force Hive to adapt.
The reward system we have on Hive right now favors non-interaction and auto-voting, making these small changes is already going a long way for Leofinance and I think it could do so for Hive as well!

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very interesting. yeah that 7 day window is really a killer from the perspective of making music and videos. It pretty much makes creating anything high quality a fools errand because you can't really hope to be compensated for a few weeks/months worth of work in a 7 day vote window. there's just no time to gain traction. I think it seriously affects the quality and type of content on this platform, audio/video media even more than written...

from that perspective it would also be cool if you could vote multiple times on the same content over the long term. that opens up the system to more abuse i guess but I listen to the same artist over and over. I rarely read an article more than once or twice. hopefully the media platforms and Hive itself will take notice... (no doubt they will, LEO is bringing lots of innovation here i think)

That's a really interesting point, haven't really though about that yet!
Maybe you want to make a dedicated article on that and share some ideas? I'd love to hear them!

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That's a good idea. I usually leave musing about token reward mechanics to the more game theory minded, all that stuff about reward curves and stuff makes my head spin, but I guess it wouldn't be a bad idea to actually think it through myself and see where the muse leads... I'll give it a go, might take a little bit to put it together though, I'll keep you posted.

How we will tackle downvotes in these case.
Personally I do not feel "No downvote" is good policy but it is true 7 days payout window for content will not attract the established bloggers.

I read some one on medium that 7 days windows keep him away from steem (old article.)

One more reward token that is distributed to authors that are attracting traffic will be nice ,irrespective the post created date.

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This is a good question, they did not mention anything on that matter yet. I mean the question would remain whether it's necessary to be able to downvote after 7 days. It also opens up some more possibilities for abuse. So they still have some specifics to figure out before they release it :-)

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fucking finally! I hated when making a post knowing that after pretty much a day or two is for "garbage" is like it doesn't hold value anymore and i bet most of the things we write are timeless, like guides reviews etc etc

Also i keep hearing about publish0x, is it worth that much for crossposting and such?

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I'd totally say so, yes!
I just recently made an article on the topic.
Also, to get you an idea, here are my current earnings from my most recent posts:


And finally my ref link in case you want to use it :-)

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hmm i guess i'll give it a go this week!

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Great to have you - good luck with your cross posting :-)

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