When is last time you trended on HIVE ? For me It was 6 months ago!!
I'm not kind of person who create quality content or anything. Probably all my contents are related to HIVE and I know it can be boring! Since I came back to HIVE 6 months ago, at least 2 of my posts that I felt it deserve to be Trending. Forget me but for others who contribute to HIVE it matters.
No trending for HPUD for 4 months or more
No trending for HIVEchat for 20 weeks or more
If someone in our global community continuously contributing for months/weeks before they finalise a project to get funding from DAO can be discouraging. Feedbacks upvotes, comments, delegations certainly encourage the doers. As a community we need to identify long term people who contribute and support them wherever possible as little as we can.
In a longterm game, it’s positive sum. We’re all baking the pie together. We’re trying to make it as big as possible & in a short term game, we’re cutting up the pie
Thank you for everyone who gave feedback yesterday and please do spare with me, the process is messy and HIVEFix can only get better, So does our HIVE.
Click here for HIVEFix Day 1 Blog where I introduced new initiative called HIVEFix. Today is Day 2 of HIVEFix.
We need to collectively make our HIVE Network more community driven, more decentralised. There are many protocols/projects/investors will be ready to collaborate with us only if we can saw that our HIVE has all the right ingredients and it's heading in the right direction.
We need to have skin in the HIVE network and it has to be backed with contributions, stake and long term commitment. I'm not kind of person who seek attention and I let work speak for itself. The reasons why I'm pointing out the things that HIVE need to improve is because I truly care about the future of HIVE and many people/projects do care. Daily HIVETask will aggregate community feedback from HIVE Blockchain and HIVETwitter.
I don't do Discord, Slack or Telegram. Only HIVE and Twitter. I prefer open discussions and transparent communications wherever possible. So please share your feedback, suggestions, critics in the comment section or on HIVETwitter and I'll add to my daily HIVEFix Blog with LeoFinance.
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I don't think I ever trended on HIVE, but I did few times on LEO Finance. I believe that concentrated content to a community is more valuable and has bigger exposure chances than the ones on Hive, which for me is an open sea. Ok, if you have the right followers, if you have some whales on HIVE you can do also good there, but there are few such cases. On LEO Finance even starting from scratch you can make a mark, contribute and if your content is good be appreciated for it.
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True, with this community and some others. The thing with trending is that gives newcomers false impressions which leave to disappointment and abandonment on the long run.
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The way trending has been for years, I totally agree with you. It's basically the same circle jerking group spinning on that trending over and over. They ditched the bots just to somehow gain more control.
Lame... Luckily I haven't got discouraged and still active around here for almost three years.
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Right, who cares about trending? I don't watch it and try to be one of the first to check new posts that need some love.
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Exactly.
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HIVE can learn lot from LEO.
Let's put LEO into top 20 Witness before end of this year.
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Speaking about the trends wall, it would be great if the publications that are Trend are those with the most interaction, with the most comments, where it is seen organically how users respond to a certain publication, the more comments and responses a post has, the more popular it is and logically it should be trending.
It is my opinion, I think that would be the most organic and that it is not determined by the voting power.
Maybe they don't agree or maybe they do, the point is to freely express what you think.
I totally agree!
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Yes, that would be the right thing to do. It makes no sense that a post with $ 20 or $ 50 of reward but with 3 or 0 comments is a trend.
But if a post has a lot of comments and organic interaction, that gives it the opportunity to be trending since the organic signature community is interacting.
I don't think this stuff is that trivial. Trending by activity would leave space for bots to manipulate, it would also push spam commenting, because people tend to exploit this kind of systems.
Maybe it would be possible to work with the existing reputation system. This would allow to rank not only by activity, but by the (possible) quality of the involvement. Could be especially interesting to implement such a system in several tribes, maybe also on Leofinance.
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I am a believer in organic voting and organic comments.
That is the way, this is a social network and it should be seen as what a social network is.
I think I never did.
And I DON"T CARE
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Not given a ...care one day at the time :)
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Jimmy crack corn.... 🤣
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Neither do I and you know why?
I've got to the trending page on leofinance and publish0x for many times and I am proud of myself. People that don't personally know me, that have no circle jerking benefit from me and who aren't and probably never be my sponsors, sent those posts on the trending.
Why?
Because they appreciated them, because curation in here is almost entirely organic and last but not least, leo acts much more like a community, than just a simple business.
Hive has transformed too much into a business benefiting mostly the large stake holders, folks that decide almost everythng on the chain, and if they'll continue to do so for too long, the plebs will wake up, power down and invest in other tribes leaving them with millions of low value tokens.
Community is what gives most of the value to a token and leofinance still manages to have a strong one, at least that's the way I see it. Hive on the other hand is too much business oriented and too much automation being used.
One thing that also said a lot about Hive and the circle jerking and all the flawed things about it, was when that 500 HBD per day for 60 days exchange listing proposal got on the dao list, sum that was actually asked after the work was done by that lady, met with lots of disagreement from the community, but still got voted by large stakeholders and passed.
That's when I saw the true face of these stakeholders and was a warning sign for me. That's why I don't care about that trending page anymore because I see it as flawed as the Steemit one. I hope Hive will work flawlessly for many years and will represent a rewarding place to spend time online for many of us, but I have a bitter taste regarding some folks around here.
Hence, my bet is 100% on LEO. Time will tell if I placed my bet right or wrong.
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Thank you for this comment.
Don't count Steem under Ned as HIVE. HIVE is only 8 months old and we as a community learning so much from the past experiences.
We'll see new whales and new top 20 HIVE witnesses in 2021. With HIVEFix I'm planning gather all communities feedback openly and identify key issues and present them to our community.
I believe in HIVE and LEO and We can win together and we must go through some painful process to start moving together.
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I'm feeling pretty much the same @acesontop
Maybe we need to go through a few more hardforks, to get rid of the most toxic whales there (on Hive), ha ha ha ? :)
I still keep my 142K of HP there, but my enthusiasm is way down from where is was half a year ago.
Will wait and see, while LEO keeps me busy nowdays.
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I doubt any hardfork will solve anything... I see you're quite busy in here.
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Why not ?
See how nicely justin sun was eliminated 😃
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You have a point here. Lets get them forked then.
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Never on Hive or if the pre-Hive name period is taken in account, tree times in Dec 2017, I've boosted my self on trending twice and the third time people have been thinking I will boost again and prevoted me to get the sweet curation rewards.
Mostly trending is for me a not worth watching area, as most are voted via autovoter to gain the curation rewards, it was sweetsomething before, now are others... I would not remove trending, but would not make as first tab if you click on explore. I would put the new posts on explore. This should be an easy interface fix.
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Thank you for explaining.
Removing trending in HIVE is like google removing search results or Twitter moving likes and reTweets.
Some problem I'm seeing is that HIVE Trending, HIVE top 20 Witness and DAO funded proposals tells me HIVE is not decentralised enough or community driven.
We need to collectively working on making HIVE Maximalists and true believers and bring new whales to empower healthy competition
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True, true...here is only one thing that whales are afraid off or might be turned one. Stake has been nullified in the past. This shall be a no go on a chain, regardless the person owning it.
We need vote decay for witnesses, as this would change on a regular base the top20.
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I don't know if I ever trended on HIVE because I never view the trending page. I do on LeoFinance though. 😁
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Same here and happy about that.
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There are some similarities in
Part of the reason is HIVE is not decentralised enough and We need new HIVE whales.
HIVEFix will help us identify key issues with HIVE network and aggregate community feedbacks. HIVETwitter movement will bring new investors to HIVE.
Let's get ready for 2021 and HF25
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i have never trended on hive but i have made it to a top of some community pages. Honestly, i believe hive is becoming more decentralised which reduces a lot of emphasis on hive. The focus for many is community. smaller communities that are easy to manage. I am mostly active here on leofinance because i find the kind of people i want to collaborate with. I think if every community does well it will have a positive impact on hive.--which is everyone's end goal
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True. However there is a fundamentally similarities between HIVE trending, Top 20 witnesses voting , DAO proposals voting.
HIVE needs lots of improvements and we need keep identifying them and work towards solving them and that's the only way we create true believers of HIVE who will last decades to come.
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I can't believe I wrote MARKETING bold... It's something I've been preaching for a whole lot of time, and i am not the only one doing that.
By the way, I never got to the trending page of Hive, I guess I'm not among the chosen ones...
LEO seems to be solving many problems that Hive is still facing with and that's why I am all in into it.
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The kind of marketing that I believe is that last for decades. We need to create true believers of HIVE who are become $HIVE maximalists. I'm sure there are many other approached to it and we need to see many ideas and proposal for marketing.
I think there is a huge problem with HIVE trending and it needs huge improvements.
HIVE can learn more from LEO for sure!
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For me - I never did and I am not sure if I will go for it. Guess I will have to put some effort into the activity over here. But not sure if I will do so.
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Is that mean you're not willing to put efforts to improve our HIVE Network. Remember we're HIVE owners
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Well, of course I keep a few hives, but I don't see much personal benefit for me currently on this platform. I'm on other platforms where I have 10-100 times as many interactions as here, although I'm not necessarily more active there. So far I have not been able to find really relevant interactions here. Unfortunately the community is much too small and I don't see such a huge added value in the different tokens yet.
So I can't say for sure if it would be worth to invest time into the activity on this platform. My first impression is that this could end up frustrating.
Thank you for sharing this.
Have you started your https://leofinance.io/ journey yet ? Because you might get totally different experience
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I have been posting to Leofinance for a week or so now. It is also much better than the frontends I used before.
However, the interaction rates are very low and the quality of this interaction is sometimes rather poor. A lot of comments, which are more there for a comment to be there than to say something. Well, let's wait and see - we both knew we are in a little niche over here.
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We can collectively change interactions within LeoFinance.
One of the key reason why I'm Building LeoSpeak community to empower LeoFinance.
We got this. If LEO wins HIVE will win too. If 3Speak wins HIVE will too.
It's a positive sum game.
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So Leospeak is basically a sub-tribe of 3Speak within the leofinance community? Not sure if this is so good ^^ How big is this community? 200 active ppl?
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My plan to build 100 People community first then grow 10X with Incentives
I haven't trended on Hive, but I did have a post on the front page of LeoFinance once and that was pretty cool.
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Happy for you :)
I see some improving signs with HIVE Trending and still lots of diversity needed.
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No one should care to be honest if you hit tending or not. The worrying thing is it is the same names and gives the wrong impression to anyone from the outside looking in. The tribes on the other hand don't have this excuse as they should be fixing what is so wrong and making it right on their own communities. On sports this is being done as we speak and depending on what front end you are using the trending has already changed. The linear reward curve starts on the 1st December and will also help to change that so things are being fixed slowly.
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Can't agree more.
I've just joined Sports Talk Social community. Hope to create some content there soon :)
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Good news and happy to welcome you onboard. Things will improve slowly across all tribes I think as they can see what is happening elsewhere.
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I am not sure I have ever trended on Hive and maybe just once or maybe not on the LEO platform since I do not know what makes one trending.
If it is the largest number of comments or upvotes.
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Found this on https://hive.blog/faq.html
I really wanted to see more diversification of people coming on HIVE trending. I can certainly see there lot's of improving sign of this. Also I want to see healthy competition for top 20 Witness spot and DAO funding proposals.
Let's keep our consistency and make more peers on HIVE and LEO and we will be trending on HIVE soon!
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Never trended and just recently started blogging on Hive. I left the old blockchain and went hiatus for months then returned here. Hive still has the old problems but one thing I noticed most upon joining again is that more effort has been placed on content discovery and people who do create decent content are earning relatively more rewards than they usually would from the old blockchain.
It's fairly easier now to get noticed as long as you actively engage in a community and create some content for your niche. While the macro problems do remain, the small grassroot level problems have been reduced in terms of discoverability. I'm glad more emphasis has been placed on user retention now than ever before.
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Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts my friend.
It's super important to support and encourage the true believers of HIVE.
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I doubt I will ever really hit the trending page with my posts.
I try hard to reach the trending page but I guess my content is not what people want.
I am a little channel and people do not get much in the way of curation rewards from voting on my content. I am not a whale or a big name on Hive, so I just post and hope it helps someone or someone enjoys reading my posts and maybe some pictures I post.
In the realm of things, I guess it does not matter I enjoy posting on Hive so I guess it is what it is.
Have you started your journey with https://leofinance.io/ yet ? Many people content feel more appreciated on LEO
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No, I have not I will try and see how it goes on my next post.
Thanks!
I trended on Hive about a day or two ago. Wouldn't say it was a good post myself but it's up to the voters really! I have trended 4 or 5 times in total and never paid for bid bots when those were rampant. Had a music, travel, crypto/finance, beginners guide all trend so it's not just limited to one topic in my experience.
But with communities being moderated on topic specific content, I don't look at trending pages too much anymore on HIVE. It's all about the communities
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Me too!
As more and more communities increase their HIVE Stake, our HIVE Network will become more and more decentralised.
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haha, that is a good question, actually the answer is (Hive and Steemit combined): Never ever, and will never ever happen :-) but trending should not be the aim to be part of the community, some things behind curtains are more important, in a nutshell the chains needs to survive and prosper.
I totally agree.
I don't want to see same people come on trending all the time!