DeFi Is Going To Change All Of Finance

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Cryptocurrency is full of speculation. We know that based upon price action. There is, however, another form of speculation that is taking place surrounding this industry: what the future is.

If you listen to most of the mainstream economists, this is just a passing fad. Bitcoin and the rest of cryptocurrency is just another toy that people are being upon. After all, there is no intrinsic value to any of this, according to them.

The reality is listening to economists is a pretty foolish thing to do. Years ago, in my travel down that path, I realized it was nothing more than an academic exercise. Hence, I can state from experience that economists truly are disconnected from what is taking place.


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Decentralized Finance (DeFi) is one area of cryptocurrency that is going to radically alter society. Certainly, we are in a period of mania and scams. We simply are going to have to work our way through this. Nevertheless, the proverbial baby and bathwater come into play. The fact there are nefarious players right now does not mean this is to be overlooked. We are seeing structured platforms being built that will enable the thriving of a completely new industry.

We live in a global marketplace. There is little denying this. At the moment, we can freely exchange data and goods. Money, on the other hand, is painful to deal with. We know the existing system is slow, unreliable (corrupt) in many areas, and based in an analog world. Many settlements are still conducted based upon paper verification.

This is pretty amazing when you consider that trillions of dollars worth of goods are shipped all over the world each year. The fact that the system is so inefficient is really telling of how much is being wasted.

Intermediaries are everywhere. Here we see someone always with their hands out. Throughout many processes, people are taking a little piece along the way.

We are in dire need of digitization and cryptocurrency is the piece that will complete it.

To consider how absurd much of the present system is: think back (or imagine) what it was like to send information around the world without the Internet or even facsimile machines. Ponder what the flow of information was like when information was physically sent.

While the financial system is a step beyond this, it is not by much.

Slow settlements result in a slowing in the velocity of money. This is a problem across the entire global economy. It is a number that plunged, in every currency. The longer it takes a company to get paid, the less that money will travel through the system in a given period of time. Here we see banks actually hindering the flow since they want to suck every ounce of interest they can by holding the money. A few extra days when there are billions of dollars traveling through can really add to the bottom line.

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We also see start up capital in massive need of an overhaul. Here again, it quickly becomes evident how DeFi can solve this problem.

Banks will not touch start ups for the most part. Funding these entities is not truly in their business model. They use pertinent data for that firm to decide creditworthiness. The challenge is that a start up does not have this.

This led to the establishment of an entirely new form of lending: venture capital. It, too, is a system that is wrought with issues. Most of them are outside the scope of this article. The big key is that it is a closed system that depends more upon who one knows.

DeFi creates a completely new funding model. With move value being generated in the crypto realm, we are seeing the ability to collateralize, tokenize, and NFTs just about anything. Over time, as this number increases, more can be funded as a result of what is already in existence.

In essence, the pile will just keep growing as we add more on top of it. All of this can be leveraged into more innovation and expansion.

The tokenization of an idea does not require a credit score or development of financial documents. Instead, it simply needs people who believe in an idea. This is how Amazon was started. Of course, it helped that Bezos' parents had the $250K of initial seed money. Since most do not fall into this category, other measures are required.

How many Amazons are not pursued because an entrepreneur does not have access to $250K? When we think about it, that is only 25K tokens, sold at $10 each. On a global scale, that is not a lot to move.

At the present moment, we are not to the point of funding things of this nature. We are operating on a smaller scale. To start, less money is easier to fill. That is why we see a lot of the projects getting a much smaller figure, albeit with dreams not quite to the level of Amazon.

Another reason is that anything large will likely alert the regulators. The system is still rigged against this type of funding. Thus, those who turn to the market for capital are at risk of getting in their crosshairs.

It is a problem that will likely be alleviated as the infrastructure of decentralized financial systems get built out. We will see a period where companies are hybrid; they operate in crypto but adhere to the regulations. Eventually, I foresee the system getting so big (and spread out) that the regulations will not matter.


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When most think about DeFi, they only consider the idea of personal finance. This is where we got the concept of yield farming and "filling one's bags". It is a starting point but truly on the tip of the iceberg.

The revolutionary aspect to this is when business finance is considered. Here the numbers get much bigger, very quickly. Whereas the personal achieves a certain level, the business side of things ends up taking things 100x higher. This is where the real money operates.

We are going to see billions more people joining the Internet over the rest of this decade. Already, there are 5 billion minds online regularly. These are people with ideas, initiative, and passion. What they are lacking, in many instances, is capital. DeFi is the world that can change that.

This is the early stages. However, it is not difficult to see how those platforms that are forward-thinking will start planning for this expansion. Breaking into business finance will really be what sets DeFi roaring.

If we think it is growing at a fast pace now, consider what will happen when tens of billions are not going to yield farming but, rather, start up companies. Then we will see economic growth through this area explode.


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Cryptocurrency is full of speculation.

It should not be. More and more places should accept it directly. We could use it without selling it for fiat currency.

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Without a doubt. We need to see more marketplaces opening up. That is why I am watching Hivelist closely. Hopefully they start the ball rolling.

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Do you have time, and would you care to speculate how this new direction might impact government, military might/authority, and politics?

I’m curious how militaries will work when no one needs to join for a paycheck or educational opportunities and how governments can enforce authority without the ability to enact violence at Will. Or will drones and robotics just replace troops fast enough to shift power? Thoughts?

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I feel that, over the long term, say 50 years, we are going to see the demise of the nation-state. This will take a lot of the institutions you mentioned out. We are moving towards a world of networked economies which the physical entities are not equipped to deal with.

That is the long term. How things will unfold over the next couple decades? I think that is going to see a push for more control as they hang on. They are going to push a UBI to try to remain relevant but it will not work.

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UBI came up in another conversation recently. I can't elaborate how eager I am to buy crypto with my first payment. :D

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LOL that would be a good use of it. Keep filling those bags.

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The only use of it, but that leads to concerns about exchange compliance and user/wallet identification. I feel like the dark web has to come into this at some point. The last true free zone to take refuge while it all burns down.

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DeFi is a sort of technological automation. The replacement of human labor and human conducted activities is clear in almost sector. Hence why wouldn't DeFi be so impactful? It's still in its early stages, even crypto is far from mass adoption, but all this makes so much sense.

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The more I read about kingdoms the cooler it sounds. I thought it was just going to be the same as pools and dens with auto compounding but it seems to be much more than that and uses other DeFi as well in order to grow income even faster!

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It is great for every normie ! You just commit capital and it just chooses the best ways to allocate it.

The whole value of this feature is to trust that the team is experienced and good enough to take good investment decisions.

Which they are 😉

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It really is going to help a lot of people. CubFinance is really introducing a lot of people to the world of DeFi and helping them out.

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It is very exciting what they are going to do. This is something that should take it to another level. I think that could be something that puts CubFinance on the radar.

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This is indeed the case for a lot of different finance use cases.

We need to iterate and might need some time for users to understand the risks. In the last crypto dip, a lot of users got their loan liquidated because it was under-collateralized.

I would like to believe every individual could make some good decision but the financial literacy is so low that I do not think it will be the case.

Let’s hope I am wrong 😂.

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The educational process is going to be huge. You are right, few have the basic foundation in financial matters to be able to make sensible decisions. Sad there are a lot operating in a realm where they do not know what they are doing. When events like the last couple of days hit, they dont know what is hitting them.

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I'm looking forward to the emergence of venture capital style DAO's, that should in theory open up all kinds of potential funding for start-ups, and also open up investing opportunity (trustless) on a global scale. That's fun to think about.

It's fun to be along for the ride with DeFi in it's infancy. Well I guess we're more than just along for the ride, as with anything we can shape the direction the space and products go with where we put our money. Fun times!

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I'm looking forward to the emergence of venture capital style DAO's...

That is very true. They will be exciting. Before they become widespread with use, I think we need to experiment with other government models. This is going to enable the different DAOs to be able to operate according to the rules they establish.

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DeFi is bendable and is actually flexible, which makes it very easy to tweak to each and everyone's favour, finance is taking a decentralised turn which means more opportuinities for people to participate, as it can also be cheap. My experiences with it so far has not just been revealing but educative.

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It is a learning process. The great thing about CubFinance is that we can grow into things. As they add more features, we can learn what they do and how we can benefit.

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The key is rapid expansion. We have to continue growing fast enough that regulators can't keep up.
When we reach a large enough size the governments won't be able to interfere without destroying their own economies.
Remember folks, this is a revolution.
#agorism in action.

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I agree a thousand percent. We also need the development to keep pushing things in a more decentralized way. The less we are dependent upon the centralized entities, the more dangerous we become.

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The problem I see is that the APR itself from Defi isn't always going to be so high and its like leaving your money with a bank. If anything happens underneath, you are going to get hurt pretty badly. Of course leaving it with a known team lowers the chance of anything happening but realistically, what % returns do you think Defi will return 10 years down the line?

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...what % returns do you think Defi will return 10 years down the line?

I think we will be able to get huge returns depending upon how these DeFis are structured. For example, if we are able to fund those projects that typically attract VCs, we could really see high returns.

We are in the digital world which is much different than physical. The growth rates will far exceed what we are accustomed to seeing.

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I hope we get more tokens like Cub Life because it's way easier to get into Defi with those kinds of tokens, no hassle, no headaches just pure monies every week :P

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There are lots of things we can do to simplify the situation. I think for most on Hive, having HSC is really going to help. A lot of the confusion is in dealing with Eth and HSC. Those chains (and wallets) are not easy.

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I just had a conversation about this with someone the other day. They were stating that they don't get it and they don't understand the point right now. I told them to think a couple years down the road when crypto is more common and there are more ways to move between them that require liquidity. Then it starts to come into focus. Then if you expand it out to doing the typical banking things we do today you can really see the power of it.

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Certainly. It is akin to trying to understand the internet before the web browser. We are still in the process of constructing the infrastructure and making a new system. It will take some time. The stacking and filling of one's bags is going to provide the needed resources to fund the DeFi ventures.

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Yeah, having lived through all of that I can understand people's hesitation. Hopefully they work through it and don't miss out.

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I saw a tweet from CZ of Binance that “he thinks people should be able to use CeFi to access DeFi and vice versa so that people who can’t access the services of CeFi due to regulations in their area, will have access to CeFi services within their DeFi platforms....this is the type of hybrid we will soon start having and I think it’s a good growth catalyst for the sphere

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There is no way to deny that we are still stuck with CeFi due to the fiat conversion. That is something we cannot get around at this time. Thus, we need to keep growing our system as well as the decentralized infrastructure. It would also be helpful to be able to use crypto for products and services that we need. It would reduce the dependency upon fiat.

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I would agree that some use of defi in the future could solve many problems. Unfortunately when defi gets mentioned today its under the scope of much negativity. It's almost like saying Scientology has many useful training techniques in confidence and knowledge. However Scientology is termed to be a cult, brainwashing organization.. etc., and so everything in Scientology is seen as bad.

That's the Defi of today. So the reference of defi is what we see today. Unfortunately although many of us recognize the promise and the future of what this space can be. We as a whole encourage and welcome bad actors. it is a given. So my concern in the evolution of this space is mostly this period not the future. The problem is this period is setting alot of the narrative of what the future of defi will be. It doesn't look good from this standpoint.

Now in the future there can exist a defi thats not in the class we're in now. Absolutely it could. That hasn't happened as of yet. These projects grouping themselves in that category are mostly shameful projects and again the space does a bad job of restraining from that type of narrative. They welcome these projects with open arms and so alot of what defi can be falls on deaf ears to most because we understand what they are used for now.

So i think there will come a future when crypto shuns projects that bring us shame. That we don't make them top performing cryptos like we always do because of greed and mistaking this for the only possible use is a roulette wheel. Hopefully that day will come. It doesn't seem like its come yet. We got a long way to in our market psychology.

Crypto doesn't have regulatory markets. I wouldn't say economist don't know what they talking about . On the contrary they do. I think the mistake they'd make in crypto is underestimating just how much people care about pump and dump projects over real useful projects. I think they'd miss that.

The other part is we know what that really means. That means that the people involved in crypto care more about cashing out into fiat currency and using fiat currency than they do about crypto. if it were different they'd care more about advancement of the space and not just pumpamentals.

Now what does pumpamentals mean? it means its more important that the price of the coin goes up than its actual value to society. That puts us in a bit of a connundrum.. puts us in a pickle. As we're not saying much, just like Warren Buffet said. Usefulness and technology generally always win out. Shellgames often times end up as shellgames.

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DeFi will follow the same path as the Internet. In the early days, it had the reputation for being a haven of porn, hookers, and drug dealers. That wasnt an inaccurate assessment either. We also went through the dot com era where there were a plethora or people, nefarious or not, who got large sums of money and never built anything. However, in spite of it all, the Internet grew and forged ahead. Today, we know there are a lot more use cases even through there is still porn, hookers and drugs online.

DeFi (crypto in general) has a lot of the scammers and people who are just trying to scalp a buck. We saw a lot of that in the early days of email too. It seems new technology brings out the wolves and some of the non-knowing sheep will get eaten.

With all of this, crypto-defi-nfts, we have to separate the mania from the underlying value that is being built and created. This is not determined by looking at market cap or pricing charts. Alas, that is where most are at.

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I agree with much of what you're saying. I remember those dot.com bubbles. My firm helped bring some of them to market. A few were okay. Many were crap. So i do see the parallels of crypto especially during the ico hype cycles and those ipo's.

However, crypto has managed to do something even they didn't do. Once they failed it was pretty much an era over. Crypto goes from ico's to nfts, to every year its like they revive this bad behavior. I wanna say in some cases its useful tech. I'm not sure if its just more of the same spinning of different narratives.

All i can say about the future is that it's hard to predict sometimes. I remember as a kid all i could think about was zipping around in flying cars. Well here we are still not flying around in cars but we have all these autonomous vehicles and for some weird reason i just never thought about that. I always thought about us piloting a flying car lol.

So i've gotten to the point now unless i'm Ray Kurzweil i don't go too far out with predictions anymore, lol.. So yes i see the parallels i'm not sure though that means these crypto projects we hvae today are going to be that or we just may get something completely different.. some blockchain hybrid some new algo. We may get something completely unexpected. So i'm still not ready to say its per se any aspect of what we seeing now. There are talks of projects and ideas outside of the scope of what we doing now. So i try to proceed with caution with this. However when i do see something i don't like i do try to bring attention to it. Talk about its dangers and concerns. So people can be mindful of that. Although i know many are hardcore gamblers lol.. I just feel it responsible to go on record as one of the people who was warning them about certain things so i can sleep at night and not bare any responsibility in that.

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I think DeFi is the future of finance. That being said, there will be a huge resistance from the already established financial companies and attempts to regulate in every way possible.
Decentralization brings a universal opportunity for economic independence and fair investing.

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Their resistance means little. This is a situation where we are building something that does not invite them in.

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I love how DeFi is allowing any average investor like me to earn a decent ROI without doing much. When you consider the token price appreciation, it's the cherry on the cake and sometimes the whole cake itself.

Making Crypto on autopilot will become a norm in the future. Traditional finance schemes are sucking too much of investors' own money and they don't provide as much value.

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DeFi in advanced forms may indeed allow any more people to transform their ideas into a business. However, these advanced forms of DeFi require forms of quality ratings, otherwise, not too many people will 'invest' due to lack of knowledge.

I disagree with you the current fiat system is closed for raising capital. Numerous crowdfunding platforms emerged over the last decade. More and more startups and growth companies are making use of them. Banks (at least in my country) are helping entrepreneurs with loans combined with crowdfunding.

Added to that, in the last two decades startup accelerators emerged left and right. Another way of getting something funded.

Sure, not everybody with an idea gets funds, but this is wanted behaviour. Everybody can have a good idea, but surely not everybody is able to start and run a business. That's the current problem in the crypto universe. So many projects launched through ICO, a new token, or whatever to get funds, but lack the ability to execute, hence many projects stop or their token trends to zero.


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DeFi is definitely the future

I agree 100% that legacy finance is in transition, either to change or be replaced.

Cubfinance has a lot of potential, and I understand Khal’s ideas about building utility and intuitive UI to attract users, it’s a valid strategy. I am also happy he has a plan for marketing, and I think we need a longterm outlook.

I think we live in an exciting time, when everything is changing, it’s dangerous and we need to be careful, and wise.

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Finace regualtions have been one of the (probably the biggest) barrier to innovation in the finance industry. DeFi is finally getting the cronies out of the equation and make the networks globally distributed. With less middlemen we have less expenses too. It's all going to mean very good things to the small time investors.

Unfortunately BTC and ETH haven't been doing a good job. I know this vert well because ve been locked out of these blockchains because of high fees. They've all been kind of whaletopias for me.

!PIZZA

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