RE: Hive: Guaranteed Life Changing Money For Your Efforts
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Well this is why HIVE doesn't grow.
It needs to be clear about what it wants from it's userbase. Either the platform is building to try to attract "normies" into crypto/blockchain.. by simply creating a digital world where they can flourish doing what they do already on regular internet: BEE SOCIAL.
Or this is just a very simplistic game of money where in reality majority of people will HAVE TO WORK their asses off for recognition.. and likely never earn any meaningful bread.
See the fact is you yourself flip flop on this fundamental. At times you make the claim " HIVE needs to provide a "dapp" where growth outside of the money game is the focus" but then other times you make sure people understand this is FOR FOOLS CHASING MONEY ONLY.
So then again... read my post from the beginning and understand why growth suffers.
IMO, this will never be a thriving social platform. Folks seeking money in all kinds of basic ways IS the system. I mean there's not even a SEARCH function here to intuitively retrieve whatever content is in that pile of "PAST CRAP USERS ONCE GOT AUTOMATED VOTES WITH" so the word CONTENT is more like a drug that gives fools their fix. It all then exists like used needles on an abandoned building floor.
If this is such a bad place, why are you even here?
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LOL the old "I don't like what you said so I want you to leave" response.
I'm here and other places because I choose to be. My opinion is my currency. Buy into it if you wish... OR DON'T.
No, not at all. I didn't mean I want you to leave. And I didn't disagree with you. I was genuinely curious what is keeping you here, even though this place sucks. Probably something more than money?
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lol I don't think it sucks it just needs A LOT MORE development. Because I think the money game is great for those that want to play that but then majority of humans that connect with other humans online just aren't looking for that to be THE REASON something appeals to them. Many people here have realized that and @taskmaster4450 is one of them.
But then I feel he flips on that and sometimes says " You have to work and dedicate all your time here or you're going to fall on your face."
Which, in regards to the money game.. is completely true. Unless you're able to just bring a bag of money and let the money work for you.
Hardly many like that here though.. or more accurately.. apart from the few that are here, none from outside are really jumping on that as a good way to grow their money.
Which then comes back to the other point: the audience here is just too small. So at some point, those that contribute to development have to realize that urgency needs to take the wheel, because at some point either another platform will pop up that gets it right or the overall infectivity of this platform to attract large userbase will always be the curse to growth.
I think most people don't realize that right now Hive is first investment platform and only then social network. In other words, one cannot really grow here unless one invests. Yes, one will grow somewhat through effort, consistency and time but it will never lead to serious money unless one brings in their capital with them here.
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Yeah that's the truth. Which is then why I raised the point with taskman because just the other day he was saying that this place will grow when it attracts the social users. Which then obviously needs plenty development.
I'm not into the money game so tenfold of me will still be zero dollars! I would however play the rewards game if the audience here was substantial enough for how I want to engage.
Anyway maybe in the future Hive will be a thriving money and social platform.
Are you into cubdefi yet? So far it has been quite profitable.
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Nah man I don't play the money games.
I'm currently here just as a spectator.
Inspector Gadget!
Ok technically you didn't say LEAVE! So i guess you're genuinely curious why I'm here. There's multiple reasons why any of us stay anywhere. You shouldn't assume everyone here is here because they have a good experience.
Some might be here as observers of the technology and the type of people it attracts. Others are here because they need the money that they can potentially get. Others might be seeking an audience and others are extracting something from those audiences.
I am a spectator. That sometimes yells out things to those playing the game.
Right. Now you get my point which I just repeated in my previous comment. Now since I know why you are here, I can tell you why I'm here too haha.
I'm here because I was sick of the Steem drama a year ago. What's keeping me here is my weekly comic and organ playing contests. More recently I feel compelled to engage more on Leofinance community because I feel attracted to the topics that involve Hive, Leofinance, and Cubdefi's future.
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Well done then. See you get me too. The reason is audience. Recipients to what you believe, you, through your content, can contribute value, to the system, is the reason.. with the added bonus of rewards of course. Which I agree with are positives for the platform.
I'm not against all that but want a much bigger audience here and also social tools to keep that audience connected. I planted my seed with my sumo post so then in time that might grow. Or... not!
Anyway keep pushing man it's people like you that make this community. You're exactly the type that need to be multiplied tenfold here and in time be seen as the real value to the system.
I wish we could multiple you tenfold as well.
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Certainly Hive needs growth of user base. There is no network effect without it, just like there isnt one on Facebook, Twitter or any other application.
As for the social aspect, there is certainly that element required. Is the platform there yet? No it is not. Other than some of the gaming, this is still primarily a place for blogging/vlogging. There is no place akin to Facebook or even Twitter. That piece is missing and has to be developed. Fortunately, there are some working on the solution.
Of course your view tryin to separate the two means you really do not understand where things are going.
You look at things either/or where as others see both.
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No man my point was that you yourself flip flop on what type of audience needs to join Hive. I don't see anything definitive. I once saw Leo as a hopeless crypto group... then I investigated and realized there is great effort into the development. I then changed my view again and saw a small group that is aiming for heights out of their league. So then who knows... development might reach that or maybe my current view will simply be correct.
HIVE however doesn't even have agreement between developers on what it wants to be. Do you pay attention to the meetings? @blocktrades essentially crushed @howo live on that RC system that's developing. howo sees value in pools for users to give them a leg up but block thinks they're worthless. Or something like that. @peakd then is another example of development for the user experience and on how their past content should receive reward with COLLECTIONS. That's a great move, but then you would think other frontends would at least allow that feature to exist across the board but no. Conversely peakd doesn't embed @threespeak video properly so that's hurting the video feature here. You see how broad my view is?
So the teams moving this thing forward from the backend can't even figure out a system that is unified. And I'm not talking about CENTRALIZED either. But the user experience simply suffers when this fragmentation that IS THE SYSTEM.
Who cares though right... the money game works (sort of) that's all that matters...