Challenges - Pros and Cons
Inspired by yesterday's post of @russellstockley in his post about challenges and his daily chatter, I have decided to create a post and share my opinion about this important topic...
In the beginning, I would like to say that I wouldn't be present on 3Speak or D.Tube if there were no challenges... Everything started by @nathanmars and his #Seven77 challenge... When I came to the "old blockchain", that challenge was running for some time, but I wasn't ready to even create my blog posts... So, I didn't participate in it...
After that, @pixiepost started #2020Vision challenge, inspired by Nathan's great movement and I have jumped it on that train... I wasn't video creator at all, never-ever, so that was like jumping into the fire for me... and I didn't regret it ever... Actually, that was the best thing that happened to me in this crazy year... lol...
After that one, it was a turn to jump in #IAmAliveChallenge, created by @flaxz, and later to #MyHiveGoals by @robwillmann, which I am the part at this moment (you can find my stats at the end of this post)...
The awesome part of these challenges is that they can help you a lot in training consistency... showing up every day and creating a piece of the content every day... Also, important thing is to engage with others that are doing the challenge with you, make new friends, make new connections... Another important thing is learning a new skill, or improving the current one...
On the other side, some problems will arise if you are doing some of them... If the challenge has no ending point, YOU have to decide when you think that you have "fulfill the mission"... That can be a problem as you have created the habit of everyday creation, and suddenly, you have to stop it... It's not easier for the "challenge creator" to say "It is the end"... I don't know this from my personal experience, but I know that it was very difficult to @pixiepost to stop her challenge... And I can't even imagine how was to @nathanmars to end his one that has hundreds of participants... That's a big responsibility...
At this moment numerous challenges are running at the same time, and I have noticed that some of the participants are overwhelmed by so many things going on... To not offend creators, they try to participate in each of the challenges, but that's creating additional pressure and I'm afraid that it will be contra-productive...
Don't get me wrong... I like challenges... They have changed the way of my living and thinking...
Some of my thoughts and ideas if you plan to start a challenge:
- Be creative with the name of the challenge and try to provoke that participants spread their creativity
- Create a STARTING and ENDING point for the challenge... People will be fulfilled when they reach the end... That's ONE accomplished goal more
- Connect the participants (@flaxz doing an interesting job with Discord channels and rewarding engagement in the comments on Hive)
- .... a place for your ideas... share them in the comments...
In the end, I would like to make an update of my current numbers (June 10th, 2020) on #MyHiveGoals:
HIVE POWER - 12,825 / 20,000 64.12%
CTP POWER - 100,533 / 150,000 67.02%
HIVE Followers - 233 / 333 69.97%
LBRY Followers - 727 / 1,500 48.47%
Join us in this awesome #MyHiveGoals and let's grow together! You can find the original post about the challenge by @robwillmann here: https://peakd.com/myhivegoals/@robwillmann/new-challenge-myhivegoals-set-and-achieve-your-goals
Thank you for your time,
~ph~
Link to my initial post is here
These are my initial (and starting) goals for 2020 on June 1st, 2020 and this #MyHiveGoals Challenge
HIVE POWER - 12,092 / 20,000 60.46%
CTP POWER - 98,148 / 150,000 65.43%
HIVE Followers - 222 / 333 66.67%
LBRY Followers - 648 / 1,500 43.20%
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What a deep well though we'll written blog post. This is what Hive is all about. It goes to show how showing up every day and pushing yourself can make you grow online and in your personal life. And you have done both my friend.
I understand what you are saying about challenges. But I have to put in a but. And it is just my perspective. And I am going to name it. Iamalivechallenge. To me this is not longer a challenge. @flaxz has made it into a strong and growing community that I am proud and look forward to participating in every day. The same as I look forward to participating in ctptalk everyday.
It has become part of my online life and I do not want to see it end. Maybe just maybe drop the word challenge. #iamalive.
Just my personal perspective and words to reflect on.
Bradley
I think that you get the point of my post in general... I didn't say that I'm against any of them, just said that every participant has to give some personal "touch" to it... Actually, that's a similar thought as Russell said... To be more creative with titles and bring some topics to every next post...
I don't say directly for your posts, but for some of them out there... It's not posting for a sake of posting... it's for the sake of make interactions, make friendship, exchange experiences, tips...
I wouldn't meet some great people out there if there were no challenges... you included...
:)
Great post Zoltan, I am glad that I was able to feed some greater thought re the challenges.
I agree that a challenge is exactly that, a challenge, if we continue on the same path then it is no longer a challenge
Re your friend the Artist, as you may be aware Visual and Fine Arts is my trained Background.
I am a firm believer that if an art producer hangs onto their work they cannot produce at their best.
Once a work is complete it is complete. all meaning is then implied to the viewer and the artist uses that work as a stepping stone to the next. if they hang onto it then they are not able to move on and hold themselves back.
I have sold every Art Work I have created and willingly. Once I have created it, it no longer holds meaning for me and I gladly give that meaning to others :)
Well, regarding my artist-friend... People are different and we react differently... I would agree with your point about that, but I had problems to sell some of my "favorite" tokens, so I can't be a hypocrite about this topic... lol...
It SHOULD be as you say, it is HARD to do it, but I agree that is the best way to do...
Happy to hear that brother, wish you luck may you journey will be granted..
Cheerss
Thank you for your comment
My pleasure sir!
Thanks for taking the time to think through the misc challenges, just as Russell has done.
Personally I don't have time to do all the challenges. If I did work on them all, I would not be working on things that I need to do that build my business\brand and earn me money.
Yes, I can see where people may start doing challenges as a way to create content if they don't know what to write, but I want to add a couple of points:
If everyone in CTP who is active creates their own challenge, there will be a ton of challenges, and our channel would be a glut of content that is all very similar: nothing but challenges.
With one of our newest challenges (and this is my own personal concern and not necessarily that of everyone on here), if we are doing the #iamengaged, what happens when we write a post about how we engaged with someone new, they come to our post (because peakd is going to alert them of being mentioned) and they see that they are mentioned as part of a challenge. I can see this playing out two ways:
A) IF the IamEngaged post author wrote a nice review of the other post or truly did something unique and then tagged the person they engaged with, then it works out.
B) IF the IamEngaged post author just tags the 5 people they engaged with so that they can meet the requirements of the challenge and doesn't provide anything of substance in their post, then the people they tag may show up and read their post and then get upset. Why? Because the engagement with them will feel cheapened and only done so that the post author could meet a metric requirement for a challenge.
If it were me, I would rather be tagged in a challenge with a post review or something written about my post, not just a tag with my name and a URL in someone else's post. That just feels spammy and cheap to me.
We need to avoid #B above by writing quality content.
What do you think about that?
-Rob
Huh... I couldn't say it better...
The A) option is ideal, but I can say you from experience from the past, that it will not be a case... And, I'm not a pessimist, it's just the way it is... People tend to try everything and create the minimum possible effort to gain something...
I wouldn't say that the problem is only that 1 challenge... Actually, challenges aren't a problem at all... just participants that want to abuse them... And it can lead to 1) that people are pressured by the number of challenges out there...
Some kind of balance should be made, but that usually has to come from respecting others and their path... and I can't do all challenges as it is time-consuming and you lose the other side, what you said very well as
There is no ideal solution, but maybe challenge creators should create a better "guide" for proper participation... To embrace creativity, feeling of community, and appreciation of other's work...
It sounds a bit dull, explaining to people how to create a proper title, how to pick up some topic, how to tag the post... The only thing that WE can't do for others is to write about their experiences, be creative, adding value to the community...
Thanks for the thoughtful reply. It's interesting because we both are thinking along the same lines.
However, like ANY online community, there will be stars, and there will be dross. You can't control how people act on a public forum, but you can set and adhere to rules that help the large group in general.
I am all for whatever it takes to help people make ORIGINAL, creative content, even if it's another challenge. I just don't want to see a lot of cookie cutter replies that are essentially the same thing.
That cheapens the ctp brand, so to speak. I'd rather ctp be known as a place full of thoughful people who are decent writers, and that only occurs when people use their brains, and try to come up with original content.
-Rob
Yes, we are on the same side and I completely agree with your comment... And, on the other side, I am aware that with the attitude that you described (and I completely 100% agree with it)
...have created from me the people that I was criticized on the Hive blockchain as "those who want perfectly written tech posts"... BUSTED! :)
We have to find a balance... lol...
I'm a bit biased because thanks to the Iamalivechallenge I finally managed to get in front of the camera ;-). I think these challenges give people a topic to write, vlog about and to show up every day. I still think that posting something is better than posting nothing. On the other hand, it's up to the curators to validate their efforts. If somebody just puts 5 links into his post, then I don't believe it's worth an upvote...
I believe it's also important to choose the challenges we want to participate in...
And, you are right... Maybe I stress too much about it... :) It is simple as you said... up to curators to upvote it or not...
Will see how it goes... Thanks for the comment!
Great video Zoltan, and interesting thoughts about challenges, the thing is a bit more deeper because if you jump on a challenge and then 2 days later the person who started it says that the challenge is over and everyone should stop then you will end up extremely disappointed, so what is the time frame of the challenge then.
As to the #IAmAliveChallenge in particular it is also much more than just the basic of sharing that you are alive, it's also a way to onboard more people to Hive, though we still need to work more on that.
It's also to help Hivers and newcomers to start making videos, and to get Hivers to start with affiliate marketing and building an email list.
Quite a bit more work is of course needed to make those goals a reality and to make it much easier, which is why I am gathering the team to help out with the daily tasks, and to get more infrastructure up so that it can act as the onboarding and affiliate machine that I envision for it to become.
And because each person is different then how long they want to participate in the challenge itself is very much up to them, why did they start and when do they feel that they have accomplished that, and also when did they join and will the challenge be there for the time that they want to keep doing it?
As to #LukeIsAlive, even if you did not mention it, that is not a challenge, it's a daily and weekly Contest, with a prize drawing.
Keep up your great work and stay awesome.
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Thanks for the feedback...
It's important to discuss the problems and be aware of them... And I'm happy that you are always ready to accept propositions and how to make things better... As I was a part of the challenge, I understand that it's not just that basic concept, but it is important to "give wings" to participants and freedom to discuss something inside the videos... You and I understand that, but not everyone does...
And just discussing future challenges and ideas on how to make them better... Thanks for participating!
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When you start a challenge, it has an endpoint. And as a participant, you know how far you go and also see how you are doing. Challenges push us and sometimes we need that more than anything in order to try something and get out of the comfort zone.
Yes, they are great... They helped me a lot, and they help others to step-put and plug into the community...