Clearing Up All of The Misconceptions About the Lifestyle Tribe

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It's a beautiful Sunday morning and we're about 2 days in since the creation of the #lifestyle tribe.

The attention and activity has been crazy to follow. Clearly, a tribe about #lifestyle fills a deep desire here on Steem.

As we've said before: the original use case of social media was to share your #lifestyle. To talk about where you went to eat, who you loved spending time with and what desires you had each and every beautiful day that you get on this amazing planet.

What is Lifestyle About?

Many have asked questions related to content on lifestyle. "so just another 'everything goes' tribe?"

Everything does not go here on lifestyle and we have put quite a bit of thought into how we want to moderate the community.

Since it's only been 2 days, you haven't seen this moderation plan very much and we will soon release a full spectrum moderation plan for the community to review and post accordingly.

As a preview to what the guidelines will discuss in detail:

  1. Users who post content that is related to their #lifestyle can post on our tag
  2. Users who spam by posting numerous times a day for the clear purpose of draining the rewards pool will be warned, flagged and eventually muted if they do not stop
  3. Flagging will be our primary way to moderate. If we see high rewards on a post, we will look deeply into the post and the creator of that post. If we deem that the rewards are too high for the quality of the post, then we will flag it down to what we consider an appropriate level

We'll focus on moderating the extreme cases. Someone who's making 100 LIFESTYLE a day by posting blurry pictures of the sky with no text obviously can't continue to abuse the rewards pool with no consequences.

This is a subjective tribe. #lifestyle is a broad topic. BUT... common sense still comes into play. We all know what "good" content looks like and we all know what "shit" content looks like too.

Who Created Lifestyle?

A ton of people have asked who we are and who is really behind this project.

The original idea for #lifestyle was created by me and my best friend. We came up with this idea a few weeks ago after listening to a podcast episode in which Twitter and other social medias were analyzed at their inception. The core idea was talking about how everyone thought Twitter was no big deal because people were just posting things like "I just went to this pizza shop and bought a slice!"

We're 2 college students in the U.S. and for obvious reasons, we wanted to keep our real names off this project. Others have asked "why not share your Steem names"... Well, our Steem names are the same as our real names, so that doesn't really work.

We could have gone out and created 2 new Steem accounts to represent ourselves, but ironically, we didn't want it to seem like we were creating some sort of elaborate web of lies by saying that these 2 newly created accounts formed a tribe called Lifestyle.

We didn't have the STEEM nor the knowledge of Steem-Engine to setup and successfully create a tribe on our own, so we sought out @khaleelkazi after discovering the tribe he created and the other tribes that he had advised.

He is an investor/advisor to us through his LABS project which he hasn't yet announced officially. His description of it is:

"Think of LABS as a startup incubator for aspiring businesses/tribes on Steem."

He's not very involved with the day to day operations of lifestyle. We simply go to him with questions and he helps us with whatever we need. He's obviously a busy guy with all the things he's doing over at Steemleo and he doesn't have time to help us with small issues. The top-level ideas and funding are clearly his specialty and that's why we sought him out in the first place.

Is Lifestyle An Exit Scam?

Alright, here is the biggest question that we've gotten. This question is well-placed when you factor in all the past happenings of Steem like DLive, dice games and similar issues. Exit scams are a big deal in all crypto projects.

We are far from an exit scam, but it's hard to explain that unless you could see in our heads and see what we want to do with the #lifestyle tribe.

The only real way to show that we aren't just raising STEEM to eventually dump it and leave is by powering up the STEEM earned from LIFESTYLE and LM sales. Apart from that, we don't really know how else to show you that we're here to stay. Actions speak louder than words.

Lifestyle Discord Server

We have been working behind the scenes to organize a Discord server and were planning to release it a few days from now.

Since we've gotten so many questions, we figured now is probably the best time, so here's the link to join: https://discord.gg/DjyEHhF

Other Questions?

If there are any other lingering questions, just ask us in discord as it will be easier. If we get the same question a few times, then we can do another post like this to clear the air.

Thank you for supporting us and thanks for sharing your best #lifestyle!



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good project by implementing one's lifestyle. I like this project. I will make lifestyle tokens as my greatest strength in Steemit.

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I write two daily articles about my coin collection, one in English and the other in Portuguese. I have written almost a thousand articles since I started posting in Feb 2018 and I have raw material for another thousand articles, at least.
Is #lifestyle an acceptable tag to be used in my articles?

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I was there before we hit 10 members. Please once you jump in, look for my comment and give it a thumbs up!!

Welcome to Discord @one.life

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woot woot! we saw that and appreciate you :)

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The idea of the "Lyfestyle" tribe is great and was waiting for it to come up. Congratulations to the creators!

I would like to give you some suggestions, as a very old Steem user (I have been here for 3 years) to you, who in my view do not have so much "road" walked on this Blockchain:

I favor and support anonymity, but at Steem we are dealing with people and money. Trust here is everything, so it would be nice to reveal your "ID's".

The first warning is not a flag, but rather a comment on the post of such "abuser" and if it persists, the flag is legitimate.

We are talking about a "free market" and I don't see flags giving an author just because he posts flower photos.

Big hug from Brazil and success, Lyfestyle! 🍺

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Thanks, we are loving all the feed back so keep it coming! We may change our minds on that at some point in the future, but once we do, we can never go back. That's why we're playing that move a little bit on the slow side. And about flagging -- totally necessary to be careful about how we moderate the content. It's also important to note (as we will in the comments) -- that flagging is only taking LIFESTYLE rewards off the post and don't affect any other rewards whatsoever.

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A flag even from the lifestyle tribe has more effect than just removing rewards cos that flag appears on steem (or on steemit) and not everyone posts about life in a bid to earn rewards. Not everyone is on steem for rewards. One can be here for privacy and for tons of other reasons besides rewards especially when it comes to posts about life or lifestyle. So a flag will have more effect than you may know and especially for people using steemit without knowledge of a tribe

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One question, is it necessary to do stake Lifestyle Miner?

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Welcome guys
I feel the best intentions.
To know if you can trust someone. You have to trust first.
I love the concept, I already subscribed and I comment and vote publications.
My feed is only two members, but I will change it.
I love healing and I love that people are happy and look for ways to make others happy.
From me, Upvote, reSTEEM and monitoring.
Stay cool

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Be careful about how you moderate contents. I think it should be based on the content type, not based on high/low reward from a post. If it's going to be based on reward amount, make sure you have clear rules on that. e.g., max number of reward cannot exceed X. I don't think word count is a good idea either, it just demotivates people's interest in your token.

The high reward should be appropriate if the content type is alright, given that some investor of LIFESTYLE is spending their power to upvote, and authors are spending their time to make a post.
I don't like what realityhubs is doing, downvoting whatever they can including comments, and eventually even disabled upvoting comments. This is for sure going to get lots of token reward for content creators, but what about token holders? They can upvote a post then later have no reward due to the moderation. There's not even enough posts to upvote for...
When people don't want to hold the token, the large payout to content creators has no market value.

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Why bring up the question who is behind the project if you are not going to answer that question?

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Taking ownership of a broad tag like 'lifestyle' is a money grab tactic. For example, no one accidentally tags 'steemleo' or 'palnet' or 'neoxian'.

Clearly, a tribe about #lifestyle fills a deep desire here on Steem.

'lifestyle' is already one of the top 10 tags on steem and hardly a creative term that fills a void like you said.

I've already seen a ton of abuse, for example how is writing about the 'lifestyle' token lifestyle? You've basically stolen what was a normal tag before you came along.

I think you just thought of the most popular tag you could get away with making a tribe for. A lot of people are going to be receiving your tokens and taging your tribe without knowledge or consent. This is deceptive.

Even if you change it to 'onelife' it would be better, because few people accidentally tags that.

Actually, I'm disappointed with Steem-Engine as well for allowing someone to claim an extremely popular tag, what are they going to sell next?

You also won't say who you are. In other words, we think you are doing this as a cash grab because you are selling your token before establishing yourself. Plenty of people started very successful communities on Steem long before selling tokens (and worse miners). Trust and respect is earned not just given.

We're 2 college students in the U.S. and for obvious reasons, we wanted to keep our real names off this project.

You have already admitted you are in America and admitted that you know you are violating US regulations. If you cannot follow the laws of your country, why should we trust you?

The only real way to show that we aren't just raising STEEM to eventually dump it and leave is by powering up the STEEM earned from LIFESTYLE and LM sales. Apart from that, we don't really know how else to show you that we're here to stay. Actions speak louder than words.

Actions do speak louder than words, so tell us who you are so we can judge for ourselves whether we should trust you or not. You are already taking people's money and offering practically nothing in return. Besides even if one.life doesn't exit scam, we have no idea what your real accounts are up to.

Powering down only takes 13 weeks which isn't that long. Besides you can borrow the money almost instantly or dump tokens with other accounts to drop the price. What are your plans to do with the Steem if this tribe fails and the token drops to 1% of the price you are selling it for? Do you have any whitepaper for example? You have only mentioned that you want a steemspeak tribe and a discord, that takes 1000 steem and about an hour to set up each. I know people who have done more in an afternoon to be honest.

Someone who's making 100 LIFESTYLE a day by posting blurry pictures of the sky with no text obviously can't continue to rape the rewards pool with no consequences.

Your use of obscene language in your 'clearing it up' post hardly sets a good precedent for what kind of community you are creating. I understand there are mostly adults on Steem. However, is it so hard to use the phrase 'take advantage of' instead? It would set a better tone for what you are trying to accomplish and give people who are critical of you fewer reasons to be critical of you.

I hope you take my criticism seriously. I've spoken with a few people about tribes and even lifestyle and most people are not happy other than the moonboy FOMO type people who promote the crap out of anything with no shame in hopes of making a Steemie or two and generally love dancing for dollars. Please try to earn our trust and respect and don't beg for it, grovel, or demand it.

Maybe I should make a tribe called 'blog' or 'writing' or 'money' and then claim ownership.

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Actually, I'm disappointed with Steem-Engine as well for allowing someone to claim an extremely popular tag, what are they going to sell next?

Yes, it is so frustrating that Steem-Engine has allowed the tribes to take over general tags representing large communities, I did not realize this with lifestyle until now that you mention it. I hope that the tribe can change the name of the tag for one of its own creation, there are many options that could be quite attractive.

It is currently happening to us with the #spanish tag
This tag has been used for writing in Spanish since I know steemit. Now this tribe and its new chiefs "those who have power" feel entitled to announce in their posts that YES and NOT to post there, inviting negative votes and flags to the content they do not consider appropriate, when there should be no more rules that the same ones that steemit already has as generally accepted and written in Spanish. Those naive or aspiring to vote for the chief even ask them if their content is adequate or not, it is so so frustrating ..

¿What happens if I don't want my content to be reflected in that tribe?

¿Is it me who has to stop using the tag that identifies the hispanic writing?

We really need to talk about this situation, so that the engine corrects this.

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I am glad others understand the situation. They could have avoided much criticism by choosing a fair tag.

I'm sorry to hear what is happening to spanish. If they did like sct which tags sct-en for english that is fair. But spanish is also a very popular tag no one owns.
It's like selling bottled water and air, but shutting off municipal supplies while you are doing that.

#Shamestyletoken

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We do not own the tag "spanish". Nothing is holding anyone back on creating a tribe with any tag they please. There could be hundreds of tribes that link to the tag "spanish", "lifestyle" or an other tag and there would be hundreds of extra tokens users could earn next to their earned steem.

The power of tribes is that they connect communities like Steemit has never been able to do. More than 20 Spanish speaking projects have united in our tribe and we have created a community that has been perceived as very posititve by the fast majority of our users.

As with everything new there have been questions on how best to do things, some mistakes have been made, and more are bound to be made as well. We feel it is important to strive to a high content quality level and because of that we have used downvotes and wil continue to do so.

I agree with the one.life team that there is no downside to tribes. Users will earn tokens next to their earned Steem. If they never visit their account or our website, never claim one single token, it will not have a single effect on their Steem experience. And if someone for whatever reason does not want his or her posts to appear on our website, we have no problem muting them on their request, which will result in them not posting and not earning any unwanted Spaco.

You said, you were sorry to hear about what is happening to the "spansih"tag. I dare you to really take a look at what is happening, read the comments of hundreds of users expressing their enthousiasm for our project and re-finding their love for the steem blockchain. And then make up your mind.

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Personally, I know nothing about your community. Thank you for providing some insight.

You mentioned it has existing support which is a huge positive complared to lifestyle.

It is using a general tag, which I don't like.

Are the founders anonymous? Do we at least know their usernames?

There are definitely downsides and risks to tribes. The toekns can end up being a terrible risk and communities can be mismanaged.
The community and users have a right to express their opinions and concerns. If tribes don't address these in a reasonable manner, that is a bad signal.
The best time to start judging a tribe is from day one before habits are entrenched.

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I can appreciate that issue and see the frustration. To us, the lifestyle tag is quite a bit different than the spanish tag, but all may not see it that way. As I said in the response to abitcoinskeptic, the people posting in those tags will only earn potentially more rewards and not less. In my mind there is no downside to it on the side of the content creators. Maybe I am wrong about that but it's just my 2 cents.

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This "samic" person has been in charge of saying things that are not true like the "rules" that she invents herself. When she talks about downvote, she always forgets to say that we only use it for plagiarism and abuse (abuse like using "Spanish" when your content is written in another language, for example, French, English, Italian, etc). I'd like people to ask us directly what those "rules" are that don't exist, instead of going along with a person who doesn't know anything. If you publish a capture of the cards you won in the game steemmonster and you use "spanish" and you have a spaco reward, my duty is to give a negative vote, because I would be ceasing to value those who dedicate much more, to do a correct job, not a simple capture of the game.

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We have a deep sense of appreciation for the skepticism and the points you bring up are valid ones. Honestly the issues of "taking over a tag" are a weird area. We're not taking over a tag and anyone could post whatever they want in that tag. We simply can moderate what gets shown through to our interface. This is an issue that has hit many tags spanning a variety of different topics. One valid argument against this is that users who normally use the tag and use the tag for "relevant content" to that tribe or niche topic will recieve additional rewards to whatever they were making before, they will not receive any fewer rewards though as moderation accounts don't hold any STEEM POWER (or very trace amounts for RCS only).

"obscene language"? This is a commonly used phrase across the blockchain in reference to abuse of the pool. I can see where you're coming from, but this is almost like "steem slang".. Especially with HF21 coming, this phrase gets thrown around all over the place. As I said, I can see where you're coming from so in the rare case of some non-steemian reading this, I changed the wording.

Your criticism is taken very seriously and we are truly trying to build something here. We will work tirelessly to prove the skeptics wrong, but as the post said this only can be done through actions, not words. We could debate it all day but we will instead continue to build our community and let that speak for itself.

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I'm glad we can agree on a few things. At least your team is understanding and reasonable. That should help smooth out any issues.

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I totally agree!! "Onelife" would be a much better Tag then the popular Lifestyle Tag on Steemit.🙋💯

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Would like very much to hear your position @one.life @khaleelkazi , on the daily, regular ACTIFIT reports, posted with the #lifestyle tag.
Especially those with just a few lines of text, and not even a single photo.

I see some already in the HOT and TRENDING sections.
Do they not deserve a downvote?
If they get success, soon we will have hundreds and thousands of them.

ACTIFIT allows unlimited number of tags ( correct me if not) , so why not include #lifestyle, along with

sct sct-en sct-freeboard ctp neoxian palnet liv bilpcoin iv mediaofficials int upfundme lassecash jjm marlians battle actnearn sportstalk zzan

I believe this TREND should be stopped at the very beginning.

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But haven't actifit users been around using the Lifestyle tag longer than the lifestyle tribe? It may be hard to change the habit of using a fitness based app with a lifestyle tag. Perhaps another good reason the onelife tag may have been a better choice?

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The only real way to show that we aren't just raising STEEM to eventually dump it and leave is by powering up the STEEM earned from LIFESTYLE and LM sales.

Very smart move on your side.

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How can I get voting power within #lifestyle ? I don't have too much steem at the moment, but I would like to give more strength to this project. And right now, the power of my vote is zero.

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Hi garcianieto! We will be doing continuous slow-drops to various users and then the other way to get power is to post content and (if you want) buy LIFESTYLE off the market and power it up. We'll be curating content regularly from the new feed though!

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@one.life, For sure there should be a line of value because at the end of the day content represents the Community or Tribe and it should be genuine and original. Keep up.

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What do you mean for "Obvious Reasons!?" There is no reason what so ever to not want to say your names and who you are. What are your Obvious reasons!?
Anyways , other then the very low post payouts, I think my very first post only made 1 cent lol , even though I upped your first intro. post at 100% and resteemed it, I do like the concept and will be posting daily as most of my posts are about Country living Lifestyle / cooking and BBQ etc. Best of luck to you @one.life 🙋😎

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Lol. That 1 cent was from me! Anyways, it looks like your more recent posts are doing much much better.

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Hahaha, Thanks for the vote it's much appreciated and the thought that counts more then anything else! 👍😄

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Hi, are you going to give some rewards on the coins staked, even without active posting?

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Life is something everyday!
So / seems that everything can be a lifestyle!
lifething !

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